From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Mon Jan 7 12:35:59 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B2A71491915 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2019 12:35:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@e.0x20.net) Received: from mail.0x20.net (mail.0x20.net [46.251.251.56]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "0x20.net", Issuer "COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 61B008A6FD for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2019 12:35:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@e.0x20.net) Received: from e.0x20.net (mail.0x20.net [46.251.251.56]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by mail.0x20.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3B53AB494E; Mon, 7 Jan 2019 13:35:19 +0100 (CET) Received: (from lars@localhost) by e.0x20.net (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id x07CZJ1P088065; Mon, 7 Jan 2019 13:35:19 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from lars) Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2019 13:35:19 +0100 From: Lars Engels To: Igor Mozolevsky Cc: Lars Engels , Wojciech Puchar , Hackers freeBSD , Pratyush Yadav Subject: Re: Speculative: Rust for base system components Message-ID: <20190107123519.GV40894@e.0x20.net> References: <451787DE-0659-4F7D-B011-904F90866DDB@gmail.com> <20190107120629.GU40894@e.0x20.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Editor: VIM - Vi IMproved 8.0 User-Agent: Mutt/1.11.1 (2018-12-01) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 61B008A6FD X-Spamd-Bar: + Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [1.77 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.56)[-0.562,0]; MX_INVALID(0.50)[cached]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.38)[0.376,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[freebsd.org]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.43)[0.428,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[lme@freebsd.org,lars@e.0x20.net]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:31400, ipnet:46.251.251.0/24, country:DE]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[lme@freebsd.org,lars@e.0x20.net]; IP_SCORE(-0.18)[ip: (-1.47), ipnet: 46.251.251.0/24(-0.73), asn: 31400(1.33), country: DE(-0.01)]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2019 12:35:59 -0000 On Mon, Jan 07, 2019 at 12:11:55PM +0000, Igor Mozolevsky wrote: > On Mon, 7 Jan 2019 at 12:07, Lars Engels wrote: > > > Wojciech, we got it. FreeBSD is perfect for you. You do not care about > > what other people need, think and want. It's okay for you when FreeBSD's > > user base shrinks until you are its last user. > > Can we other people now discuss how we can FreeBSD make relevant again? > > > Out of curiosity, how do you see Rust making FreeBSD "relevant again"? My mail was not about adding Rust to base. I only picked up a random rant mail to reply to. There are other sub-threads where my reply would have been more appropriate, I think.