From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 14 00:46:31 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ports@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E21EBBE2; Mon, 14 Jul 2014 00:46:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from hades.sorbs.net (hades.sorbs.net [67.231.146.201]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D71B28D0; Mon, 14 Jul 2014 00:46:31 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Received: from isux.com (firewall.isux.com [213.165.190.213]) by hades.sorbs.net (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.29.0 64bit (built Jul 9 2013)) with ESMTPSA id <0N8O00L19FNCJV00@hades.sorbs.net>; Sun, 13 Jul 2014 17:50:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-id: <53C32862.601@sorbs.net> Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2014 02:46:26 +0200 From: Michelle Sullivan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X; en-US; rv:1.8.1.24) Gecko/20100301 SeaMonkey/1.1.19 To: Baptiste Daroussin Subject: Re: Apache 2.4 must become default NOW References: <0E822D68-96E1-4328-9D00-1ADBF5671699@lists.zabbadoz.net> <53B9CD64.3010707@gmx.de> <20140706231559.GB8523@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> In-reply-to: <20140706231559.GB8523@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> Cc: olli hauer , ports@FreeBSD.org, "Bjoern A. Zeeb" X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2014 00:46:32 -0000 Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > On Mon, Jul 07, 2014 at 12:27:48AM +0200, olli hauer wrote: > >> On 2014-07-05 19:09, Bjoern A. Zeeb wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> given ports@ ist listed as maintainer, you get the email. The Subject says it. The world has moved on; in March I had a hard time arguing, in July I just cannot anymore. We must switch to 2.4; whatever breaks needs fixing, but somehow other distributions have managed and we did not and keep screwing our users missing a lot of security features. >>> >>> Please fix! >>> >>> — >>> Bjoern A. Zeeb "Come on. Learn, goddamn it.", WarGames, 1983 >>> >> Hi Bjoern, >> >> nothing against this change, except your complain comes a little bit late. >> >> The portstree was already tagged for 9.3 some days ago so this change would be a possible issue for all users using the 9.3 packages. >> >> Before the default version can be changed a full expr. run by portmgr@ is required and all possible issues should be fixed. >> >> Unluckily we have a rolling ports tree (not like RHEL and others where such a change happens during new major releases) so there should be also a time frame to warn users about such a change. >> >> I remember endless discussions about the removal of apache13 after it was already deprecated nearly one year after upstream deprecation ... >> > > Just provide the patch for the change and warn the user about the change, now, > just do not MFH it to the quarterly branch, so the user willing to keep apache22 > for a while can live on the quarterly branch for the next 3 months :) > > I don't see the problem for the people using 9.3 packages, if they want > stability they will stay on quarterly branch which still provides by default > apache22 for 3 month. > > Hopefully when pkg 1.3 will land we will be able to add new feature to the ports > tree aka build the apache module for all supported apache version leading to > anyone using package being able to chose the apache version they what whatever > the default is (but we are not there yet :)) > One would have hoped that mod_perl2 would have had this removed first: .if ${APACHE_VERSION} > 22 BROKEN= Does not build with apache24 .endif Just my small (557 packages) build set: ====>> Skipped ports: devel/bugzilla44 devel/p5-Log-Dispatch www/p5-Apache-DBI www/p5-HTML-Mason www/p5-HTML-Mason-PSGIHandler www/p5-MasonX-Profiler www/p5-RT-Authen-ExternalAuth www/p5-libapreq2 www/rt40 Michelle -- Michelle Sullivan http://www.mhix.org/