From owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 16 16:40:41 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 622A737B404 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 16:40:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp02.wlv.untd.com (smtp02.wlv.untd.com [209.247.163.58]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6ECED43F85 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 16:40:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from idiot1@netzero.net) Received: (qmail 28764 invoked from network); 16 Jun 2003 23:40:37 -0000 Received: from dialup-67.31.212.97.dial1.tampa1.level3.net (HELO netzero.net) (67.31.212.97) by smtp02.wlv.untd.com with SMTP; 16 Jun 2003 23:40:37 -0000 Message-ID: <3EEE5500.50803@netzero.net> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 19:38:40 -0400 From: Kirk Bailey Organization: Silas Dent Memorial Cabal of ERIS Esoteric and hot dog boiling society User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: markm@freebsd.org, freebsd-security@freebsd.org References: <200306161821.h5GILtHh090812@grimreaper.grondar.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: POP daemon X-BeenThere: freebsd-security@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Security issues [members-only posting] List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 23:40:41 -0000 I rather enjoy the benifits of Qpopper. http://www.eudora.com/qpopper/ markm@freebsd.org wrote: > Dave writes: > >>What would be a good POP daemon to use? I know there are a few in the >>mail ports. Are they any good? > > > This question is impossible to answer. :-) "Hey! You have CD's! Are > any of them any good?" "Of course they are! That's why I bought > them??!" > > >>What I mean by good is 'secure as possible' (is there really such thing as >>being totally secure / invulnerable?) > > > You need to help folks when asking very open questions like this. > > 1) What is your threat model? > a) What are you trying to protect? > b) How badly do your attackers want this? > c) How much can you afford for resources to thwart this? > > 2) What research have you already done? > a) You should have knowlege of a set of features and be asking > about those. > b) you should already know which are blatantly _not_ suitable > and why. > > 3) Why does this question not belong in newbies@/questions@? > The use of the word "secure" is not enough. > > Without pre-empting the above, you won't get useful answers. It's > like asking "What car should I get?", without disclosing that you > are a family man, and that a Ferrari is useless compared with an RV. > > M > -- > Mark Murray > iumop ap!sdn w,I idlaH > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-security@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-security > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-security-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > -- end Cheers! Kirk D Bailey think http://www.howlermonkey.net/ +-----+ http://www.tinylist.org/ http://www.listville.net/ | BOX | http://www.sacredelectron.org/ +-----+ "Thou art free"-ERIS think 'Got a light?'-Promethieus .