From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 7 05:05:44 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24A071065678; Wed, 7 Sep 2011 05:05:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kmacybsd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f50.google.com (mail-vw0-f50.google.com [209.85.212.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D8678FC19; Wed, 7 Sep 2011 05:05:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws14 with SMTP id 14so6596936vws.37 for ; Tue, 06 Sep 2011 22:05:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=Ckw4V7TVdUwysDlTBKr5n8CF3zuHVxXJAM0UWiF2foE=; b=uN+Ns0yQXIuObl+r5dadUkZUfzWGjmwBTKuv1+9J5AOP1nYlyrNiAliHVeJF4zpGG6 nBRvgryT0rz4zM0X4tRyLtnfZFYKoCgCuL8f0PlYhoaEysHZ6SOva+GUdYZu48IIYcvu GY2aKzrUBzPgSwJhRbbSzaZ6sIlKE3/MKR5tM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.20.228 with SMTP id q4mr5529538vde.498.1315371942393; Tue, 06 Sep 2011 22:05:42 -0700 (PDT) Sender: kmacybsd@gmail.com Received: by 10.52.113.169 with HTTP; Tue, 6 Sep 2011 22:05:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4E656D30.3040905@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 07:05:42 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: _1xgBUaKKknwCr8qWRh17pyzUBo Message-ID: From: "K. Macy" To: Arnaud Lacombe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org, Adrian Chadd , Doug Barton Subject: Re: No IPFW binary compat across versions ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2011 05:05:44 -0000 On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 6:16 AM, Arnaud Lacombe wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 8:45 PM, Doug Barton wrote: >> On 09/05/2011 17:18, Arnaud Lacombe wrote: >>> From my point of view, I should be able to run a FreeBSD 9.0 kernel >>> (when released) on top of a FreeBSD 5 userland without such issues. >> >> Unfortunately your expectation is completely unrealistic. >> > Completely unrealistic ? Seriously, you've got to be kidding me ? > > I just downloaded a 4 (_four_) years old OpenWRT image, built the > latest Linux kernel in development and it worked just fine. netstat(8) > works just fine, I can pick a random iptables tutorial on the net, and > it still works fine. Those binaries are 4 years old and still work, oh > and I can go back at will to the original 2.6.19 without issue. > Interesting. I remember binaries routinely breaking with minor glibc changes, such that in the linux community it was accepted that dynamic linking was "a bad thing". However, it is entirely possible that they've grown up in the mean time while we've stood still.