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Date:      Thu, 18 Jan 2001 01:37:05 -0800
From:      "Ted Mittelstaedt" <tedm@toybox.placo.com>
To:        "'Bill Moran'" <wmoran@mail.iowna.com>, "'Hudson, Henrik H.'" <hhudson@eschelon.com>
Cc:        "'questions@freebsd.org'" <questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   RE: qpopper
Message-ID:  <004601c08132$385f6e20$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com>
In-Reply-To: <3A646359.89989A21@mail.iowna.com>

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>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
>[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Bill Moran
>Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 7:06 AM
>To: Hudson, Henrik H.
>Cc: 'questions@freebsd.org'
>Subject: Re: qpopper
>
>
>"Hudson, Henrik H." wrote:
>>
>> In addition, Outlook is a piece of junk..Pegasus mail will

This greatly depends on the versions, and it also depends if your talking
about Outlook Express (which in most incarnations is truly garbage)
and regular Outlook, which is a completely different animal.

It also depends on the switches thrown by the installer.  Microsoft
selected a dumbass set of defaults (like HTMLizing) for Outlook, and
it's an understatement that most people that install it have selected
the wrong defaults.  But once you fix all those it plays perfectly
well with the rest of them.

>actually do want
>> you want to do this "correctly" :)
>
>I would assume that Pegasus is keeping track of message ID, and when it
>contacts the pop server only downloads message IDs that it doesn't
>already have. Outlook doesn't appear to be this intelligent (with
>reference to POP anyway)

This is NOT TRUE!

Outlook 98 and later is perfectly fine and works great for those that like
it.  Outlook 97 early version had a lot of bugs, but these were corrected
in the Microsoft Office SR-2 update.

Like I said earlier, POP3 was never really
>designed to work that way,

It was never perhaps INTENDED to work this way for the kind of access your
referring to, where you can have access to all your messages all of the time
from any arbitrary workstation - but it most certainly was DESIGNED for this
feature to work for casual sharing of the POP mailbox.  Obviously IMAP
is better in this regard, but IMAP is also a pig on memory and runs slower
than qpopper.  Also, earlier versions of the UW imap daemon would blow
chunks on large attachment files, making the server swap itself to
death.

Ted Mittelstaedt                      tedm@toybox.placo.com
Author of:          The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide
Book website:         http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com




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