From owner-freebsd-fcp@freebsd.org Fri Oct 5 19:41:00 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-fcp@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7756E10B4C4C; Fri, 5 Oct 2018 19:41:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ricera10@gmail.com) Received: from mail-it1-f182.google.com (mail-it1-f182.google.com [209.85.166.182]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 161348E028; Fri, 5 Oct 2018 19:40:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ricera10@gmail.com) Received: by mail-it1-f182.google.com with SMTP id w200-v6so4328574itc.4; Fri, 05 Oct 2018 12:40:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=E5/LxQQSjOahvfGaMjpFO1+BiLIs5QUXWpyzwAfQOpY=; b=ec0It7U42yvjsJpnbSMKkU2oBIUTEgeEdMc+aJGiiL0IbGNWqEx0vTVzj/3R/j3QZf HtUR9DflMfrT8za0jxfqSGRLVYdmIQZhREJPXq1Tpj5aNZ2PIhFXH/Mw2KrDKUGOEXno RAVEOv58JYnf6O8SLyMKjNtqi+cCQaGa8g7afISRiuGXdsxpySndmIGU9IRPeTMJ7DI5 iXLDG5zw1nBfE0SwIkTsl9N5X7gin5MnLX4+h6A6jD6Lczj5Rr/j5uFLOaH2ZInAnNxA FQeeUrrA/3YOy+W3WHoHLkb8hi3eN0gTTTAlpQ/HD25bkVwIF5iYv+ASXHLJmPODC1ot hc+Q== X-Gm-Message-State: ABuFfohOqpFP00paotcVMSwKsvxNK6Tru3c5wvX6m0hgdc9ubNKw9wMY E8zKezE+GXm3esdMDiNUHnB7FDRppGo= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACcGV62KroD9qBHB/BqwIORukAyu5bxRv4RbSKgsr1V6sfsGWndgV7+zSLBFL7/xRNV3Vah6K5YSWw== X-Received: by 2002:a02:a98e:: with SMTP id q14-v6mr9644985jam.109.1538768453013; Fri, 05 Oct 2018 12:40:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-io1-f54.google.com (mail-io1-f54.google.com. [209.85.166.54]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id l2-v6sm2762673ioj.59.2018.10.05.12.40.51 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 05 Oct 2018 12:40:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-io1-f54.google.com with SMTP id p4-v6so11564142iom.3; Fri, 05 Oct 2018 12:40:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:a6b:d611:: with SMTP id w17-v6mr9194673ioa.216.1538768451148; Fri, 05 Oct 2018 12:40:51 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20181003210516.GA71565@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net> <55a44e73-60ab-e386-360a-b0a0198a0e71@zyxst.net> <8878cac1-d5d2-4224-6aa5-85516db23c14@sorbs.net> <1538673997.14264.9.camel@freebsd.org> <5520e82c-6fb1-ab97-3b3b-e410c11e54f3@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <5520e82c-6fb1-ab97-3b3b-e410c11e54f3@gmx.net> From: Eric Joyner Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2018 12:40:13 -0700 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: FCP-0101: Deprecating most 10/100 Ethernet drivers To: schmiedgen@gmx.net Cc: imp@bsdimp.com, Ian Lepore , freebsd-fcp@freebsd.org, michelle@sorbs.net, freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.27 X-BeenThere: freebsd-fcp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Community Proposals List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2018 19:41:00 -0000 Being an Ethernet driver maintainer and being at most 4 years old when Fast Ethernet was introduced makes me biased to the point of irrelevant here, but I absolutely am all for drivers for old 100M-only devices being removed. I just can't really understand the support. I'd be incredibly annoyed if anything I owned was 100M-at-most (like my Wi-Fi router), and Intel is already dropping support left and right for 100M speeds on newer things. Maybe it just comes down to money. - Eric On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 10:28 AM Michael Schmiedgen wrote: > > > I'd also suggest that rl stands in stark contrast to the cs, wb, sn, smc, > > sf, tl, tx and vr drivers, which nobody has mentioned in this thread, and > > which I doubt are in use in any FreeBSD system of any age today. > > > vr(4) here in im PCEngines ALIX board running OPNsense. > > Michael > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-arch@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-arch > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-arch-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >