From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Oct 30 16:03:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA11120 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 16:03:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from castor.chuck (lucy.bedford.net [206.99.145.182]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA11115 for ; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 16:03:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from listread@bedford.net) Received: (from listread@localhost) by castor.chuck (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA28067; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 19:01:52 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from listread) Message-Id: <199810310001.TAA28067@castor.chuck> Subject: Re: russian language mixes in sendmail In-Reply-To: <19981028093609.D20920@freebie.lemis.com> from Greg Lehey at "Oct 28, 98 09:36:09 am" To: grog@lemis.com (Greg Lehey) Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 19:01:52 -0500 (EST) Cc: gestura@nyherji.is, questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-no-archive: yes X-Echelon: aerosol dispersal modalities Reply-to: djv@bedford.net From: "Woodchuck" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Greg Lehey wrote: > On Tuesday, 27 October 1998 at 17:50:16 +0000, gestura@nyherji.is wrote: > > Greetings, > > > > sorry guys, I mistyped in the version for the sendmail I'm running, > > it should have been version 8.9.1a ,, not 8.6.1a :) > > > > but the problem still persists, > > I'm allowing 8bit characterset, and all Icelandic spec. letters come > > through in good order > > Can you get somebody to send you and me an original message in > Russian; then forward me what you get, and I'll compare them. > > Greg > -- The first six letters of the Russian Cyrillic alphapbet, encoded in KOI8 Lowercase: ÁÂ×ÇÄÅ Latin eqv: abvgde Uppercase: áâ÷çäå Hexdump of those lines: [listread@castor listread]$ hexdump -C goo 00000000 6c 6f 77 65 72 63 61 73 65 3a 20 c1 c2 d7 c7 c4 |lowercase: .....| 00000010 c5 0a 4c 61 74 69 6e 20 65 71 76 3a 20 61 62 76 |..Latin eqv: abv| 00000020 67 64 65 0a 55 70 70 65 72 63 61 73 65 3a 20 e1 |gde.Uppercase: .| 00000030 e2 f7 e7 e4 e5 0a |......| 00000036 [listread@castor listread]$ If you are seeing Icelandic characters, you'll never see Cyrillic. It sounds like a problem of selecting a Cyrillic font, and enabling it in the client. This can be daunting. Also, there are two brain damaged encodings used (surprise) only by microsoft. These appear as gibberish when viewed with a KOI8 font. TeX originally used these CP m$ crap because of MS-DOS chauvinism in the original PeeCee implementations of TeX. Only recently have KOI8 capable TeX implementations appeared. KOI8 is the (Sov. then Russian) gov't standard. All the Cyrillic is in the range 128-255; the range 0-127 are the ASCII standard glyphs. Since there are 66 Cyrillic glyphs, the charsets are treated like Hebrew or Arabic, as "things in themselves", rather than Latin + a few weird letters. Dave -- Strangers know your loved ones' phone numbers!!!! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message