From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 10 15:26:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C99016A4DA for ; Mon, 10 Jul 2006 15:26:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sam@errno.com) Received: from ebb.errno.com (ebb.errno.com [69.12.149.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6419F43D93 for ; Mon, 10 Jul 2006 15:26:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sam@errno.com) Received: from [10.0.0.248] (trouble.errno.com [10.0.0.248]) (authenticated bits=0) by ebb.errno.com (8.13.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id k6AFQP1Z087381 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 10 Jul 2006 08:26:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sam@errno.com) Message-ID: <44B271A1.9020800@errno.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 08:26:25 -0700 From: Sam Leffler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (X11/20060508) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Maxim Konovalov References: <44B15511.206@errno.com> <20060710125919.D35569@mp2.macomnet.net> In-Reply-To: <20060710125919.D35569@mp2.macomnet.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: vlans and cloning X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 15:26:42 -0000 Maxim Konovalov wrote: > [...] >> This would change the user api but otherwise I can see no reason for >> continuing to support the old mechanism where you do: >> >> ifconfig vlan create >> ifconfig vlan0 vlan 1 vlandev em0 >> >> Anyone _against_ nuking the above? > > As you said it will break POLA and a number of scripts outside our > tree. If it doesn't cost much for us I wouldn't killed "ifconfig vlan > create". > As I said in separate mail having the 2-step procedure provides no functionality and in the future (when I bring in virtual ap support for the wireless system) it will not be possible to create cloned wlan devices w/ a 2-step process. Sam