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Date:      Fri, 10 Jul 1998 22:19:47 -0500 (CDT)
From:      George <freebsd@mutsgo.kf7nn.com>
To:        Rob <robert@irrelevant.com>
Cc:        questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   RE: natd
Message-ID:  <199807110319.WAA07070@mutsgo.kf7nn.com>

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ok that pretty much sums it up, crap...
i was trying to get away with having to pay $3 a month for
an extra IP address.

I think we could use something like this.

something that knows what machine is at what internal ip
address and to direct traffic to each machine accordingly.

maybe just a config file that lists the machine names and 
internal ip's and a program that answers requests from
the net for these machines.

what i am gatering is if there is no DNS lookup for the name then
it will not be sent to the next higher domain for dns.

like this:

if someone does a mail to foo.freebsd.org the internic 
dont have a name for foo.freebsd.org so it just tells them 
that,, it doesnt send them to freebsd.org to find out 
who foo is right?



 

At 12:20 AM 7/11/98 +0100, you wrote:
>>On 10-Jul-98 laszlo vagner wrote:
>>> suppose i had a machine connected to the net with it own ip address
>>> lets call it foo1.bar.com, and i had another machine connected to 
>>> it via ethernet lets call it foo2.bar.com, foo2.bar.com does not 
>>> have a ip address on the net but wants to receive mail from
>>> the internet without having to pop it off of foo1.bar.com.
>>> 
>>> can i use natd to fake the name foo2.bar.com so it looks like
>>> foo2 is really on the internet at that name and foo2 wont get
>>> "domain dont resolve" error messages when sending mail.
>>> 
>>> how about if someone does a nslookup on foo2.bar.com?
>>> what will they get back?
>>> 
>At 10:56 10/07/98 +0200, Malte Lance wrote:
>>If you are not authoritative for bar.com, there is no way.
>>natd just rewrites IP-addr.es in such a way, that internal
>>rewritten IPs are not initially accessible from outside.
>>If foo1.bar.com is a registered domain, and you are authoritative
>>for this domain, you have the option of extending it to foo2.foo1.bar.com
>>
>>Malte.
>>
>
>You can redirect incoming smtp to an internal machine, but can;t
>differentiate between machines, unless you can get your ISP to supply more
>than one IP address to you.
>
>I have my mail server internal to my private network, where the fbsd box is
>the gateway using natd.  I simply use redirect_port to send any connections
>to ports 25 and 110 through to the correct machine.  Both
>"mail.irrelevant.com" and "www.irrelevant.com" (among others) have the same
>IP address, although they way they are used means they end up on different
>machines.
>
>
>snippet of natd config file says:
>
>interface ed1
>same_ports yes
>use_sockets yes
>
># pop requests to green
>redirect_port  tcp 192.168.0.4:110 110
>
># smtp requests to green
>redirect_port  tcp 192.168.0.4:25  25
>
># web requests to blue
>redirect_port  tcp 192.168.0.5:80  80
>
>
>
>Rob.
>
>
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