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Cc: xfce@freebsd.org, Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@etoilebsd.net>
Subject: Re: xfce4-utils-4.8.3_4 failed on i386 9-pkgng
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On 06/09/2012 21:55, Olivier Duchateau wrote:
> 2012/6/10 Doug Barton <dougb@freebsd.org>:
>> On 06/05/2012 10:35, Olivier Duchateau wrote:
>>> xfce4-utils is no longer compatible with Xfce 4.10 (conflicts with
>>> x11-wm/xfce4-session). It should be removed.
>>
>> I have both installed, and they seem to be working fine. Why do you
>> think they conflict?
> 
> Since Xfce 4.10, x11-wm/xfce4-session has scripts directory (xinitrc,
> startxfce4, xflock4, ...)
> xfce4-about is now in x11/libxfce4menu (libxfce4ui).

I've poked at this a little more, and now I understand.
sysutils/xfce4-utils installs files that conflict with xfce4-session,
and xfce4-appfinder. Also, the xfce web page for utils seems to be gone,
which indicates to me that this bit is discontinued?

I'm also confused by the UPDATING entry:

20120526:
  AFFECTS: users of x11-wm/xfce4
  AUTHOR: xfce@FreeBSD.org

  When upgrading from Xfce 4.8 to 4.10 make sure you uninstall the following
  ports:

    misc/xfce4-utils
    x11-fm/thunar-vfs

   You may uninstall them before you start the upgrade procedure (preferred)
   or even afterwards when the upgrade went fine.

What I think we should do instead is to remove utils, and say this in
UPDATING:
----------------------------------------------------------------------
20120617:
  AFFECTS: users of x11-wm/xfce4
  AUTHOR: xfce@FreeBSD.org

  The misc/xfce4-utils package has been discontinued, and installs files
that conflicts with the new versions of misc/xfce4-appfinder and
x11-wm/xfce4-session.

  # pkg_delete -f xfce4-utils-4\*
  # portmaster misc/xfce4-appfinder x11-wm/xfce4-session
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Sound good?

I'm also confused by the thunar-vfs entry. I have it currently installed
as a dependency of squeeze, for which it's listed as a LIB_DEPENDS.

Doug

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