From owner-freebsd-rc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 11 23:04:08 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-rc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC0B5106566B; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 23:04:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arthurmesh@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f54.google.com (mail-pz0-f54.google.com [209.85.210.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 847538FC0A; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 23:04:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by dadr6 with SMTP id r6so666994dad.13 for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 16:04:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=Aw8y+H5dewdt6fvkiaLlzduTBJdEyPThW5NMaA563ik=; b=Rr7qA9+YIsweY+79qt1hfEp3ixP6Kjoi+6me4Q0h3LJW37E92/WvdxmI9ixRK+BlUx nB6GfTKDdt+WVBxfwttJK3GZugI35WZ3dL2FvFM4oP31empNwHfwZh7kqBqSJLDl4kba MSIYMnU3eNXqBUZ2+61MlZrY2SP4nL0VOqyG5YxOLASSMniz371snFbZO7c9Hjkbjgcg lx+XphAllXgOQWVZNvocDpMUZwa4WuUFePoOAbHkBs+JwODPYT8eXXqjPcPjmcE/8sx/ /WnuFZyW9acaQh6H7mI5fX2NsKzR8LPsQKulwha8hHgj1dXPKtEkUEerqGxuEtyyE555 Jmgg== Received: by 10.68.226.167 with SMTP id rt7mr13254796pbc.146.1347404642044; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 16:04:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from x96.org (x96.org. [64.85.165.177]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id vd4sm10459751pbc.41.2012.09.11.16.03.58 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 11 Sep 2012 16:04:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 16:03:56 -0700 From: Arthur Mesh To: d@delphij.net Message-ID: <20120911230356.GF14077@x96.org> References: <86sjao7q8c.fsf@ds4.des.no> <20120911205302.27484fd6@gumby.homeunix.com> <20120911200925.GA88456@dragon.NUXI.org> <504FA76A.5000209@delphij.net> <20120911211730.GB89188@dragon.NUXI.org> <504FAB87.3020701@delphij.net> <20120911215212.GA89515@dragon.NUXI.org> <504FBD15.8040907@delphij.net> <20120911224855.GE14077@x96.org> <504FC2BD.6070402@delphij.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <504FC2BD.6070402@delphij.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: Arthur Mesh , Doug Barton , freebsd-rc@freebsd.org, obrien@freebsd.org, freebsd-security@freebsd.org, RW , Dag-Erling ??? Subject: Re: svn commit: r239569 - head/etc/rc.d X-BeenThere: freebsd-rc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion related to /etc/rc.d design and implementation." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 23:04:08 -0000 On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 04:01:17PM -0700, Xin Li wrote: > Well, 1:1 correspondence is when we fed full text to /dev/random, > which we don't, right? Only the first 4K gets consumed. So: That's right. > Situation 1: we have 45K of plain text, and only first 4k is fed to > /dev/random at about 5 bits of entropy per byte; > > Situation 2: we have 45K of plain text, compress to e.g. 25K and only > first 4k is fed to /dev/random at more than 7.6 bits of entropy per byte; Best situation would be if yarrow properly consumed all the data _and_ we fed less data with higher entropy in it ;-)