From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 13 12:29:53 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4358916A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Feb 2005 12:29:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB80543D2F for ; Sun, 13 Feb 2005 12:29:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from simon.burke@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 58so1683226wri for ; Sun, 13 Feb 2005 04:29:52 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=KS4kNgrjFiAhqyz/xBMcwijfGi6itQark3ShSwazOdlbOHh21MIAzvsGt1H7J8LoUgxlnfjrlnO/NxKExswLCmLP4KfOE+0pD3TSIsrHdwGfGwsq52uBxk1iUfKYZCBXx1uVVeSqppD6zOV5DsJr8a0pgbVefm4NpwROU/aRGVM= Received: by 10.54.56.55 with SMTP id e55mr102427wra; Sun, 13 Feb 2005 04:29:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.11.63 with HTTP; Sun, 13 Feb 2005 04:29:52 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2d7d2dd205021304292830a223@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 12:29:52 +0000 From: Simon Burke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr In-Reply-To: <823306184.20050212113045@wanadoo.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <1935025570.20050211232605@wanadoo.fr> <200502120122.33589.reso3w83@verizon.net> <823306184.20050212113045@wanadoo.fr> Subject: Re: Instead of freebsd.com, why not... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Simon Burke List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 12:29:53 -0000 On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 11:30:45 +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Michael C. Shultz writes: > > > I Agree! My FreeBSD desktop is very stable and user friendly. What > > ever time I spend fixing/managing desktops is on my friends windows > > machines, never my own because it always just works. > > Maybe you can explain to me how to get the following applications to run > on a FreeBSD desktop: > > Adobe Photoshop Use on my SGI workstaion (IRIX), GIMP > Adobe Illustrator Use on IRIX, also plenty of gpl etc vector drawing tools are available, > Quark XPress Scribus > The Sims 2 Works via cedega > Flight Simulator Flight gear > UltraEdit VI, emacs > Visual InterDev Dreamweaver via wine, vi, emacs > Microsoft Word > Microsoft Excel > Microsoft PowerPoint All of MS office can be run via wine, (im using office 2000), or openoffice, koffice, gnome office > Microsoft Money Gnucash > The Bat! evolution, thunderbird, sylpheed even > Opera Available for freeBSD > Firefox In ports > Microsoft Internet Explorer Firefox, or can use via wine > Corel KnockOut Quite probably plugins for GIMP to do that, infact if u know how to use photoshop correctly then why would you need it? > Flight Check That looks like soft thats only needed by bad designers, I work with/for design companies on a daily basis and they dont use it > Bar Code Pro BARZ_OUT pro > MathType Openoffice Math > SecureFX gftp does this > SecureCRT ssh, kssh > SFS If this means smart filesystem, then whats wronf with UFS2, ResierFS, XFS, > Rebel GIMP, or stop being so fsckin lazy > Fritz 6.0 knights > POV-Ray how about erm.. POV-ray? > Adobe PageMaker Openoffice,scribus > Adobe Streamline Autotrace > Adobe Acrobat (full version) openoffice, scribus, > Paint Shop Pro GIMP > Palm Desktop there is tronnes of pim softwar about and palm, otheriwse i wont be able to use my palm. > SimCity simcity 3000 should work through linux compat > GeoClock time-zones > Ear Test loads of midi apps, and this could be easily witten,its a very simple ms app anyway > BlitzIn knights > Audio MP3 Editor take a look at http://linux-sound.org/ > Forte Agent pan > Movie Maker kino, drupal > Nikon Scan gimp > Rainbow gimp > Wacom Intuos >its pretty much pnp > However, I should point out that I also have applications that will not > run on Windows: > > BIND > sendmail > syslog > sshd > ProFTP > SFTP Every heard of cygwin? > The list is not long for FreeBSD, but every one of these applications is > a critical application, and most must run without fail 24 hours a day, > seven days a week. Any one of them is enough to justify running a > dedicated FreeBSD server. There are alsways alternaitves that can do the exact same job, so i dont see the problem, Oh by the way I am a linux system developer, so i do know what im on about unlike Mr i cant be bothered to update my workstations. > For this reason, I have several machines: a FreeBSD server, a Windows XP > desktop, and a Windows NT server used as a desktop (to support some > legacy applications). I have several machines too, running IRIX, BSD and Linux, I havnt had to for ages as everything i need to do i can do on a *nix box. -- Theres no place like ::1 Thanks, SimonB http://simon.geek-web.co.uk