From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 30 12:48:38 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45C0737B401; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 12:48:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1B2043FA3; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 12:48:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: from cicely5.cicely.de (cicely5.cicely.de [IPv6:3ffe:400:8d0:301:200:92ff:fe9b:20e7]) (authenticated bits=0) by srv1.cosmo-project.de (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6UJmWaK054914 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=OK); Wed, 30 Jul 2003 21:48:34 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: from cicely12.cicely.de (cicely12.cicely.de [IPv6:3ffe:400:8d0:301::12]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6UJmVAx089347 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 30 Jul 2003 21:48:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: from cicely12.cicely.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cicely12.cicely.de (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6UJmUNS096283; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 21:48:30 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely12.cicely.de (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h6UJmUZW096282; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 21:48:30 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 21:48:30 +0200 From: Bernd Walter To: Wilko Bulte Message-ID: <20030730194829.GQ42805@cicely12.cicely.de> References: <20030729192343.GB66399@sunbay.com> <20030729195449.GA3614@dragon.nuxi.com> <20030729202150.GD66399@sunbay.com> <20030730014325.GA6459@dragon.nuxi.com> <20030730045946.GA22205@sunbay.com> <20030730154052.GA55744@dragon.nuxi.com> <20030730155414.GA99616@sunbay.com> <20030730185412.GA71527@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20030730190730.GP42805@cicely12.cicely.de> <20030730191738.GC71737@freebie.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030730191738.GC71737@freebie.xs4all.nl> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely12.cicely.de 5.1-CURRENT alpha User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: Ruslan Ermilov cc: Poul-Henning Kamp cc: Scott Long cc: alpha@freebsd.org cc: ticso@cicely.de cc: Wilko Bulte Subject: Re: Floppies for ALPHA X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: ticso@cicely.de List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 19:48:38 -0000 On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 09:17:38PM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 09:07:31PM +0200, Bernd Walter wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 08:54:12PM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > > On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 06:54:14PM +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > > > > miniboot.iso is still much more useful, as it allows one to install > > > > > > I like it better too. But some people argue that not having to write > > > the ISO on CDR is a good thing(TM). > > > > The dd the ISO to HDD. > > Where do you start the dd from then? (I agree, the non-ISO fs image > suffers from the same problem). If you want do download something to bootstrap you need a machine with network service and the capability to write data to a bootable media. And we still have a large selection of possible media: CD, CDR, HDD, MO, ZIP, Ethernet, ... If you can't - then you have to buy a bootable media - usually a CD. I see no alternative to the problem and it's nothing new. Maybe David knows one - I failed to understand his last argument. Possibly I have to take one of my sun3 and install SunOS to understand. -- B.Walter BWCT http://www.bwct.de ticso@bwct.de info@bwct.de