From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Sep 19 20:56:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from cx175057-a.ocnsd1.sdca.home.com (cx175057-a.ocnsd1.sdca.home.com [24.13.23.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 072E537B41F for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 20:56:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (bri@localhost) by cx175057-a.ocnsd1.sdca.home.com (8.11.6/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f8K3rkK10993; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 20:53:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bri@sonicboom.org) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 20:53:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Whalen X-X-Sender: To: Matthew Graybosch Cc: Stanley Hopcroft , Subject: Re: How does FreeBSD make a difference in a government context ? In-Reply-To: <20010919210142.7fcc9d8b.matthew@starbreaker.net> Message-ID: <20010919205235.J10874-100000@cx175057-a.ocnsd1.sdca.home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thought of pointing out the myriad of recent security items related to windoze? Boss perhaps wants toeither not allow you to use something he/she doesn't understand, or install pc anywhere on it?? Brian "Sonic" Whalen Success = Preparation + Opportunity On Wed, 19 Sep 2001, Matthew Graybosch wrote: > Sorry, I just got word from my boss that he INSISTED that I buy a > copy of Windows XP professional and use it on my home box instead > of FreeBSD. I'm still a little riled. > > On Thu, 20 Sep 2001 10:16:29 +1000 > Stanley Hopcroft wrote: > > > > > Dear Ladies and Gentlemen, > > > > I am writing to ask your advice about demonstrating the value > > of FreeBSD servers (DDNS, DHCP, routers, Samba) in a 'public > > service'/'Government context'. > > > Mr. Hopcroft, I hate to say it, but you're dealing with the > wilfully ignorant. No LART is potent enough to deal with such > people. In a similar situation, a close friend of mine told her > employers that if they dumped Linux for Win2K, she would quit and > burn the network docs on her way out. > > They switched. She quit. The network docs made great kindling > when we had a barbecue to celebrate. > > 2 weeks later they called, begging her to come back and put > everything back the way it used to be. She told them to suffer > the consequences of their idiocy, and expressed a desire to > attend their funerals. > > She's a hell of a woman -- I'll have to marry her someday. > > > All I can suggest is that you drown them in favorable numbers. > Cost benefit analyses, Total Cost of Ownership, and above all > BENCHMARKS. Luser managers dealing with tech seem to treat > benchmarks like some kind of holy Revelation. Make sure the > benchmarks favor your position, of course. Drown them in > propaganda, bury them up to their necks in the shit. > > Lacking that, you can always get somebody to infect the MS boxen > with the Nimda and Code Red virii. I hear there's also a Code > Blue virus going around. Tell the managers that the virus problem > will continue to get worse, rendering any MS box utterly > 99.99999% useless. > ****** > Matthew Graybosch [matthew@starbreaker.net] > http://www.starbreaker.net :: where dreams and reality collide > "Screw Sartre. Hell isn't other people. Hell is debugging other > people's code." > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message