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On 1/10/2026 12:51, Ronald Klop wrote:=
It has a build error


Regards,
Ronald

Van: Karl Denninger <karl@denninger.net>
Datum: 10 januari 2026 18:21
Aan: "freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org" <freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org>
Onderwerp: Uh, what happened here? ("spine" disappeared from packages?!)

Jan 10 09:26:23 NewFS pkg[66930]: cpu-microcode-intel upgraded: 20251111 -> 2025
1111_1
Jan 10 09:26:23 NewFS pkg[66930]: hwdata upgraded: 0.402,1 -> 0.403,1
Jan 10 09:26:23 NewFS pkg[66930]: libarchive upgraded: 3.8.4,1 -> 3.8.5,1
Jan 10 09:26:23 NewFS pkg[66930]: libthai upgraded: 0.1.29_2 -> 0.1.30
Jan 10 09:26:24 NewFS pkg[66930]: openldap26-client upgraded: 2.6.10 -> 2.6.10_1

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Jan 10 09:26:24 NewFS pkg[66930]: spine-1.2.30 deinstalled
Jan 10 09:26:24 NewFS pkg[66930]: net-snmp upgraded: 5.9.4_6,1 -> 5.9.5.2,1
Jan 10 09:26:24 NewFS pkg[66930]: php83-snmp reinstalled: 8.3.29 -> 8.3.29
Jan 10 09:26:24 NewFS pkg[66930]: syncthing upgraded: 2.0.12_2 -> 2.0.13

Spine is required for cacti, and it is not listed in the package database anymore!=C2=A0 Attempting to reinstall i= t fails as not there.

[root@NewFS ~]# pkg install spine
Updating FreeBSD repository catalogue...
FreeBSD repository is up to date.
Updating FreeBSD-kmods repository catalogue...
FreeBSD-kmods repository is up to date.
All repositories are up to date.
Updating database digests format: 100%
pkg: No packages available to install matching 'spine' have been found in the repositories

Under /usr/ports net-mgmt/cacti-spine is listed however, attempting to pkg install cacti-spine says that is not there either.

This instantly broke my cacti installation and I'm loathe to build spine from the ports tree (although I could) because then I wind up with a "mixed bag" between packages and ports.

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I attempted to switch to the cmd.php poller (which is slower) but it something in one of these two updates borked using THAT:

Jan 10 09:26:24 NewFS pkg[66930]: net-snmp upgraded: 5.9.4_6,1 -> 5.9.5.2,1
Jan 10 09:26:24 NewFS pkg[66930]: php83-snmp reinstalled: 8.3.29 -> 8.3.29

I assume its the php83-snmp reinstall that broke that since net-snmp is only a client (and yet ALL SNMP lookups in cacti got borked, including on machines that are not FreeBSD boxes.)

I'm investigating why the latter doesn't work since it certainly should.

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