From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 14 21:02:54 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 534E01065676 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2010 21:02:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0E3B8FC12 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2010 21:02:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o5EL2l42070285 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 14 Jun 2010 22:02:48 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <4C1698F7.3010403@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 22:02:47 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrew Wright References: <4C162012.80207@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96.1 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_ALL, NORMAL_HTTP_TO_IP,SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Archive Server Error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 21:02:54 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 14/06/2010 18:35:39, Andrew Wright wrote: > On Mon, 14 Jun 2010, A. Wright wrote: > >> Not a cache issue; clearing/restarting has no effect, and I have >> seen the issue on several machines/browsers (FBSD/links, Mac/Firefox, >> Mac/Safari). I'm wondering about firewall/proxy -- I'll give it >> a whirl when off-site later today. > > Still nothing when checking from home. > > I'm wondering about network topology -- it is dead when > viewed from my server (138.73.29.51). > > Traceroute returns this: > traceroute to wwwdyn.freebsd.org (69.147.83.38), 64 hops max, 52 > byte packets > 1 138.73.29.254 (138.73.29.254) 0.618 ms 0.555 ms 0.541 ms > 2 bfg-6506.mta.ca (138.73.101.254) 0.801 ms 0.311 ms 0.323 ms > 3 198.164.29.73 (198.164.29.73) 0.855 ms 0.792 ms 0.507 ms > 4 198.164.29.65 (198.164.29.65) 8.464 ms 8.194 ms 8.109 ms > 5 142.166.176.1 (142.166.176.1) 124.732 ms 124.961 ms 114.841 ms > 6 xe-1-0-0-200.dr02.fctn.nb.aliant.net (142.166.209.194) 129.638 > ms 117.374 ms 117.979 ms > 7 so-1-3-0.cr02.stjh.nb.aliant.net (142.166.185.145) 126.063 ms > 123.422 ms 130.776 ms > 8 te-0-2-5-0.cr01.hlfx.ns.aliant.net (142.166.181.137) 126.243 > ms 130.194 ms 123.887 ms > 9 xe-3-0-0.bx01.asbn.va.aliant.net (207.231.227.6) 144.084 ms > 148.291 ms 146.069 ms > 10 yho1.asbn.va.aliant.net (207.231.227.26) 146.966 ms 143.405 > ms 144.975 ms > 11 ae-6.pat1.dce.yahoo.com (216.115.102.172) 140.772 ms 146.617 > ms 166.540 ms > 12 as-0.pat2.che.yahoo.com (216.115.101.145) 166.338 ms 201.429 > ms 172.191 ms > 13 as-1.pat2.dnx.yahoo.com (216.115.96.55) 206.685 ms 212.076 ms > 212.919 ms > 14 as-0.pat1.pao.yahoo.com (216.115.101.128) 221.059 ms 220.649 > ms 222.264 ms > 15 ae-1-d140.msr1.sp1.yahoo.com (216.115.107.53) 230.591 ms > ae-0-d140.msr1.sp1.yahoo.com (216.115.107.49) 235.904 ms > UNKNOWN-216-115-107-73.yahoo.com (216.115.107.73) 229.977 ms > 16 * * gi-1-39.bas-b1.sp1.yahoo.com (98.136.16.61) 661.870 ms > 17 wwwdyn.freebsd.org (69.147.83.38) 235.035 ms 238.288 ms > 229.476 ms > > Could there be some bad cacheing on the server? I'm guessing that > "wwdyn" indicates some load balancing? Possibly. I get subtly a different traceroute to yours once the traffic gets into Yahoo's network. lucid-nonsense:~:% traceroute lists.freebsd.org traceroute to wwwdyn.freebsd.org (69.147.83.38), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets 1 gate (81.187.76.161) 1.221 ms 1.125 ms 1.048 ms 2 2.b.gormless.thn.aaisp.net.uk (90.155.53.112) 27.369 ms 27.692 ms 27.523 ms 3 a.armless.thn.aaisp.net.uk (90.155.53.6) 28.955 ms 27.807 ms 27.771 ms 4 lvl3gw.thn.packetexchange.net (212.187.197.193) 28.535 ms 28.301 ms 28.761 ms 5 ae-34-52.ebr2.London1.Level3.net (4.69.139.97) 28.824 ms 29.236 ms 28.486 ms 6 ae-41-41.ebr1.NewYork1.Level3.net (4.69.137.66) 97.785 ms ae-44-44.ebr1.NewYork1.Level3.net (4.69.137.78) 97.880 ms 97.654 ms 7 ae-91-91.csw4.NewYork1.Level3.net (4.69.134.78) 102.875 ms ae-71-71.csw2.NewYork1.Level3.net (4.69.134.70) 98.293 ms ae-81-81.csw3.NewYork1.Level3.net (4.69.134.74) 104.146 ms 8 ae-94-94.ebr4.NewYork1.Level3.net (4.69.134.125) 98.448 ms ae-74-74.ebr4.NewYork1.Level3.net (4.69.134.117) 110.459 ms ae-84-84.ebr4.NewYork1.Level3.net (4.69.134.121) 98.013 ms 9 ae-2-2.ebr4.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.135.185) 170.752 ms 167.141 ms 178.554 ms 10 ae-94-94.csw4.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.134.254) 166.887 ms ae-64-64.csw1.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.134.242) 166.901 ms 167.271 ms 11 ae-13-69.car3.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.68.18.5) 168.587 ms 351.785 ms 220.689 ms 12 4.71.112.14 (4.71.112.14) 176.247 ms 176.649 ms 175.371 ms 13 ae-0-d161.msr1.sp1.yahoo.com (216.115.107.59) 167.602 ms ae-1-d161.msr1.sp1.yahoo.com (216.115.107.63) 168.532 ms ae-1-d171.msr2.sp1.yahoo.com (216.115.107.87) 168.556 ms 14 gi-1-41.bas-b2.sp1.yahoo.com (209.131.32.33) 169.761 ms UNKNOWN-98-136-16-47.yahoo.com (98.136.16.47) 168.770 ms UNKNOWN-98-136-16-57.yahoo.com (98.136.16.57) 168.393 ms 15 wwwdyn.freebsd.org (69.147.83.38) 168.668 ms 168.849 ms 169.531 ms Of course, this could very well be the reason why I get different results to you. I have IPv6 connectivity. lucid-nonsense:~:% traceroute6 lists.freebsd.org traceroute6 to wwwdyn.freebsd.org (2001:4f8:fff6::26) from 2001:8b0:151:1::1, 64 hops max, 12 byte packets 1 b.gormless.thn.aaisp.net.uk 27.407 ms 26.967 ms 26.968 ms 2 2001:7f8:4::50e8:1 26.974 ms 26.678 ms 27.100 ms 3 10gigabitethernet1-1.core1.lon1.he.net 27.534 ms 27.328 ms 27.568 ms 4 10gigabitethernet2-3.core1.ny4.ipv6.he.net 98.253 ms 96.154 ms 95.826 ms 5 10gigabitethernet2-3.core1.ash1.ipv6.he.net 100.939 ms 101.851 ms 105.118 ms 6 10gigabitethernet1-2.core1.atl1.he.net 121.391 ms 122.689 ms 123.839 ms 7 2001:470:0:ce::2 177.073 ms 177.019 ms 177.612 ms 8 iana.r1.atl1.isc.org 177.253 ms 177.687 ms 178.085 ms 9 int-0-5-0-1.r1.pao1.isc.org 179.098 ms 181.001 ms 180.969 ms 10 gig-2-1-0.r7.pao1.isc.org 177.290 ms 176.878 ms 176.504 ms 11 ipv6gw-isc.freebsd.org 178.322 ms 177.791 ms 177.021 ms 12 2001:4f8:fff6::26 179.067 ms 179.029 ms 178.631 ms which looks like a completely different machine in a completely different datacenter. > There seems to be some strange configuration going on; if the > IP is substituted: > http://69.147.83.38/pipermail/freebsd-questions/ > a "document not found" error results referring to a machine > called "realcgi.sky.freebsd.org". Uh, no -- that's perfectly normal name-based virtual hosting stuff. Compare the following three -- note particularly the 'Content-Length' header: 43417 bytes is the right answer. lucid-nonsense:~:% HEAD -uSe -H 'host: lists.freebsd.org' 'http://69.147.83.38/pipermail/freebsd-questions/' HEAD http://69.147.83.38/pipermail/freebsd-questions/ HEAD http://69.147.83.38/pipermail/freebsd-questions/ --> 200 OK Connection: close Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 20:54:52 GMT Via: 1.1 varnish Age: 0 ETag: "3b7660-a999-4c166f17" Server: Apache/1.3.x Sausalito (Unix) Content-Length: 43417 Content-Type: text/html Last-Modified: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 18:04:07 GMT Client-Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 20:54:53 GMT Client-Peer: 69.147.83.38:80 Client-Response-Num: 1 X-Cache: MISS X-Varnish: 1098273330 lucid-nonsense:~:% HEAD -uSe 'http://69.147.83.38/pipermail/freebsd-questions/'HEAD http://69.147.83.38/pipermail/freebsd-questions/ HEAD http://69.147.83.38/pipermail/freebsd-questions/ --> 200 OK Connection: close Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 20:55:26 GMT Via: 1.0 revproxy.sky.freebsd.org:2080 (squid/2.6.STABLE18) Via: 1.1 varnish Age: 80 Server: Apache Content-Length: 7572 Content-Type: text/html Client-Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 20:55:27 GMT Client-Peer: 69.147.83.38:80 Client-Response-Num: 1 X-Cache: HIT X-Varnish: 1098273401 1098273236 lucid-nonsense:~:% HEAD -uSe http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/ HEAD http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/ HEAD http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/ --> 200 OK Connection: close Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 20:56:13 GMT Via: 1.1 varnish Age: 81 ETag: "3b7660-a999-4c166f17" Server: Apache/1.3.x Sausalito (Unix) Content-Length: 43417 Content-Type: text/html Last-Modified: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 18:04:07 GMT Client-Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 20:56:13 GMT Client-Peer: 69.147.83.38:80 Client-Response-Num: 1 X-Cache: HIT X-Varnish: 1098273480 1098273330 Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkwWmPcACgkQ8Mjk52CukIxFwwCcC/gd4EBf5zvV2ILzgjzyQwyZ FSoAn1K/mtVqVPfW1BMt8mCP1SnL+DSW =9E47 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----