From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 4 06:31:10 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id GAA24876 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 4 Jan 1995 06:31:10 -0800 Received: from Trinidad.Imagination.Com (isi-gw.infi.net [198.22.1.39]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id GAA24870 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 1995 06:31:04 -0800 Received: from Morpheus.Imagination.Com (Morpheus.Imagination.Com [198.133.144.253]) by Trinidad.Imagination.Com (8.6.8/8.3) with SMTP id JAA26126; Wed, 4 Jan 1995 09:30:20 -0500 Received: from MORPHEUS/SMTPQ by Morpheus.Imagination.Com (Mercury 1.12); Wed, 4 Jan 95 9:30:25 EST5EDT Received: from SMTPQ by MORPHEUS (Mercury 1.12); Wed, 4 Jan 95 9:30:18 EST5EDT From: "Pavlov's Cat" Organization: Imagination Systems, Inc. To: "Hugh S. Ellis" Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 09:30:08 EST5EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: TCP/IP stack for PCs CC: questions@freebsd.org Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.22) Message-ID: <94146932D47@Morpheus.Imagination.Com> Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk "Hugh S. Ellis" penned: > > I will be using my FreeBSD system as a firewall through which my users > will connect to the Internet. > > While FreeBSD is really cool, I think I may get some resistance to converting > all my users from DOS to FreeBSD. Given that they may be running DOS, or > worse, DOS + Novell, what is the best way to allow them to access my FreeBSD > server? > I'm running a small system shop here that does EXACTLY what you're describing. I'm very happy with the results I've gotten using: - The MicroSoft TCP/IP for Windows stuff. Requires Windows for Workgroups, but you ought to have WinDoze users running this version anyway ;-) It has the added advantage of letting the WinDoze boxes share files, printers, etc... peer-to-peer, as well as using the FreeBSD box as a router, print server, file server and gateway to the internet. Get it at "ftp.microsoft.com" - Samba SMB / Lan Manager File Server Lets users mount FreeBSD media as local drives on the WinDoze boxes, plus lets WinDoze users use the printer resources that FreeBSD has installed. This is a great code stack, and is very stable at release 1.8.05. (In fact, I've used this to replace an existing NetWare box, which was doing much of the same stuff at much greater cost per seat. Plus, I don't have to futz around with all of the various PC-based NFS hose-age. Get it at "nimbus.anu.edu.au" - Trumpet WinSock For my users who need to dial in from their laptops, I run WfWG (without the Microsoft TCP/IP stuff) and this GREAT software stack. It has scripted dialing, SLIP, PPP and some semi-lame apps like a cheesey VT emulator. But for dial-up access, there is nothing else that comes close. (Sorry, NetManage!) Get it at "ftp.cdrom.com:/pub/cica/winsock" - Pegasus Mail This is a wonderful E-Mail package that handles MHS, NetWare, SMTP and POP mail. (Probably more, but that's all I use) It's available in DOS- and WinDoze-versions, so all of your heathen users can be happy. This package, in conjunction with `popper` and the Trumpet WinSock, makes a mobile mail solution that's hard to beat! (Examine the header of this message to see evidence of a disciple!) Get it at "risc.ua.edu" As far as X goes, I had the X-Win package that somebody else described in another post, and it worked really well on WinDoze boxes, it yakked all over itself under NT (which is what I use most), so I lost it. There are many commercial X environments that work well, but I'm not going to spend $600 a seat for 'em. (Hey, vendors, are you listening?) As far as getting some "real" network stuff for your NetWare servers, I've got FTP, SMTP, POP and a couple of other helpers loaded on my Novell servers; if you need pointers to these, let me know. In short - I'm using FreeBSD boxes where uptime, performance, cost and stability are paramount, I let the unwashed masses use their DOS/Windows/NetWare stuff that they're too stubborn to give up. It just works! Hope this helps. -- ...sjs... Steve Sims Imagination Systems, Inc SimsS@Infi.Net Virginia Beach, VA Boy I wish I had a cool .sig... 804/497-8200