From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 26 21:31:08 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 237CDD2D for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 21:31:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from b.smeelen@ose.nl) Received: from mail.ose.nl (mail.ose.nl [212.178.134.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EE878FC08 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 21:31:07 +0000 (UTC) X-Footer: b3NlLm5s Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.ose.nl (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher AES256-SHA (256 bits)); Mon, 26 Nov 2012 22:31:05 +0100 Message-ID: <50B3DF99.7030201@ose.nl> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 22:31:05 +0100 From: Bas Smeelen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help review the FAQ References: <1353868081735-5764056.post@n5.nabble.com> <1353941396782-5764313.post@n5.nabble.com> <50B38A3F.6020001@gmail.com> <1353945307512-5764351.post@n5.nabble.com> <1353945435502-5764353.post@n5.nabble.com> <50B394D6.7070306@quip.cz> <1353947122759-5764360.post@n5.nabble.com> <50B3D096.8020207@ose.nl> <50B3D6C3.1010400@ose.nl> <4BE7B576-ADED-4010-9AC9-DFFD7AB50039@lafn.org> <50B3DD13.5030002@ose.nl> In-Reply-To: <50B3DD13.5030002@ose.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 21:31:08 -0000 On 11/26/12 22:20, Bas Smeelen wrote: > On 11/26/12 22:02, Doug Hardie wrote: >> On 26 November 2012, at 12:53, Bas Smeelen wrote: >> >>> On 11/26/12 21:27, Bas Smeelen wrote: >>>> On 11/26/12 17:25, Jakub Lach wrote: >>>>> Thanks! >>>>> >>>>> Regarding FAQ, some info about journalling should be added to >>>>> "Chapter 9 Disks, File Systems, and Boot Loaders", especially now, >>>>> when SU+J is default. >>> Please also add: >>> SU+J does not work (yet) with dump on a live filesystem i.e. use >>> snapshot. >>> If you want to use snapshot (dump -L) then disable the soft updates >>> journal for that filesystem >> It would be helpful to include information on how to do that during >> install (still trying to figure that out myself), and using the >> recover CD for when you forget to do it during install. > > Right now, when installing a new system it's easiest to reboot to > single user mode after the install and tunefs -j disable 'the > filesystems' to disable journaling of soft updates. When changing the root ( / ) filesystem in single user mode, reboot immediately after disabling the soft updates journal otherwise it will still be enabled. No need for a rescue cd/usb here. > > If you want to accomplish this during the install, choose shell at the > disk partitioning part and add slices and/or partitions with gpart and > then newfs them with the appropriate options, then mount them on /mnt > and the appropriate places beneath and continue the install by > quitting the shell. > > There are some nice entries on http://wiki.freebsd.org/RootOnZFS > Just substitute the ZFS stuff with the easier gpart and then newfs -U > etc... then make sure the filesystems are mounted under /mnt and > continue the installation. > I hope that I will not confuse you too much with the proposed solution > i.e. use these resources as a guideline. Else see reboot to single > user mode after install above and tunefs > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"