From owner-svn-src-all@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 5 21:38:13 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4E15E93C; Thu, 5 Feb 2015 21:38:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pa0-x232.google.com (mail-pa0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c03::232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 16A38F93; Thu, 5 Feb 2015 21:38:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pa0-f50.google.com with SMTP id rd3so12466756pab.9; Thu, 05 Feb 2015 13:38:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=references:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:cc:from:subject:date:to; bh=vZMRmSipkT/4AdYVAmSvlK4pZZ1fnascJZpyL/g8cWs=; b=WbdQ7uJXj2f0AR30MySwV7uSNZ/9Ltu68ptQ/JKuadqj8z56Z+EQCzkrKHW47SPwTd 2Wms5hMopSMKxilSlfxeiOhM1J9rWtGEHPtQNs5SdAGbShlZa7FMHDc2DfV+XBCfo8R+ YUPKkTpx9P0fNt3FjiqmG7DDFJ31+zPbcY9JL3oGeXZuMpboFSVnMyMR631aPvRCxepE 52NR4GV8i/cmy7mL+5Uj/qoofgNByeqVoamimj78LY0l/JCfk/jxU2reN50VLrdkwl82 mHpU/RNebX5gF8ol2/Jn4pas8MzVAwelIc3UlwLMB4Wwr81FTwFo16tRi7zKHx067IiM AWug== X-Received: by 10.66.222.135 with SMTP id qm7mr389354pac.38.1423172292648; Thu, 05 Feb 2015 13:38:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.43.51.241] ([166.170.40.47]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id x5sm5955959pbt.66.2015.02.05.13.38.11 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 05 Feb 2015 13:38:12 -0800 (PST) References: <201502051138.t15BcUlj070663@svn.freebsd.org> <1724492.FMbRRniWv7@ralph.baldwin.cx> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <94B8D116-75C0-4325-8E01-CACDCE784070@gmail.com> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (12B466) From: Garrett Cooper Subject: Re: svn commit: r278249 - head/etc/rc.d Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2015 13:38:10 -0800 To: Ed Maste Cc: "svn-src-head@freebsd.org" , "svn-src-all@freebsd.org" , "src-committers@freebsd.org" , Garrett Cooper , John Baldwin X-BeenThere: svn-src-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire src tree \(except for " user" and " projects" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2015 21:38:13 -0000 > On Feb 5, 2015, at 13:18, Ed Maste wrote: >=20 >> On 5 February 2015 at 15:51, Garrett Cooper wrote= : >>=20 >> Unfortunately it is LEGACY_CONSOLE specific right now: >=20 > I'm not sure what was considered a non-legacy console when the > LEGACY_CONSOLE change went in, but the tools it controls are useful > for both syscons(4) and vt(4). Note that LEGACY_CONSOLE is a default > yes option. Agreed for the general FreeBSD case (x86 platforms, arm embedded, etc). Outside of the general case, are there any instances where it wouldn't make s= ense to install these tools? I find moused to be a less helpful tool on my text only console VMs, but my u= se case seems likes the minority, not the majority. The other tools seem really useful though when dealing with fun terminal emu= lation issues, but does it make sense to install these tools on a device lik= e a tablet for instance where the user interface is X11? Thanks!=