From nobody Wed Dec 8 19:47:14 2021 X-Original-To: toolchain@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FBD818D4600 for ; Wed, 8 Dec 2021 19:47:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbeich@freebsd.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:6074::16:84]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "freefall.freebsd.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4J8SP60xnDz3PZ5 for ; Wed, 8 Dec 2021 19:47:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbeich@freebsd.org) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1638992842; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type; bh=27ASiCfssRryqhVr3AEGA5UJrj/lmllBQNQdssKzfNo=; b=WI33J3+cTS6c3e3Ph2r/PpA1Tl4TCJ43DMW7vo6TKXuVvnkaLkE5ka3TGMeIZ2fS7PltiI Dm0fltoE2+kicEbimhX0n8RKvNTVTcNvlRDOH2mAH5Lvhunn2VdNr4TN/wDZd1GLeU/fPN XtpIDnG/+lL2pajW156HcSZ+AW5JwaHZX+oNjcs1h57LQBWpLd86EBCsIID7AivsG/6ZVe HefXagaQrnLDEP4cfM3BOZskW8XfU0vsWR3MDt76ogAj4bJFhqDLP6T9NKlELOEAMkxGHZ Und47WnTNiDbRruUP1PkJz8b0DaJj9BaekEJIuRK4o6L3ILXbIqpiveENXxmRA== Received: by freefall.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 1354) id 08D5C7504; Wed, 8 Dec 2021 19:47:22 +0000 (UTC) From: Jan Beich To: toolchain@freebsd.org Subject: /stable/12 future Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2021 20:47:14 +0100 Message-ID: List-Id: Maintenance of FreeBSD s integrated toolchain List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-toolchain List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-toolchain@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-toolchain@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1638992842; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type; bh=27ASiCfssRryqhVr3AEGA5UJrj/lmllBQNQdssKzfNo=; b=LQh35yoxT3wV7N1XmaoQWpbWwMazUNSQ3kHf85+pW6SGQ7GxivItiIJjYHQXdorR6uzPsA VAgWzILWGrGbOKA1JStwy5cTnMWnLQSukNwHQLL7i6jNr7i/fp0MW+ra2VMhuxU0Kn5+W3 3yiwykmoUdgHMleqxM0+NFs9YOH3Ys2SN1DQqq40JpuyYlVR+qRpVNVMOhzuF8HIcuo6qp i7sGS0PeJq3qWjRn4jEH4VVRm9cRnTFCCOh+cPKuMFqDLIa5vEnMLK/5lHtvtoRkH4DNUV QLfwvsz7/og4y28GPlSjKH9ATkGXVAqV8InT5GXTLfSQ0QCq9eUkZNb2V22xmA== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1638992842; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=osan1WG6S4runYX5rDmCEgMjW149EIreAQYqrFXf1ah5hkpdB1mxmdc+ahn+/fnukzv1cN jQ4MoR2yqBjVv+Y4/VzES/6jQZRV5r+Qnxx+eg699UNinTBioN/s1cA/SYYQAjqIBS7SGA 43OlEtHmRJdjaa+XK2CTR1jJz3zQMBsJe7LEeX+XWDvNqZKDC+w1uZu5Bj9gdzA8mxgd5p qdSzEB7r69wB95cHWvwSvtsf4HJHVLSyvpCEfKMnD0kZcnjuenrbVQPjLp+Hu/jvJZJA2f 4AOgf6YjmvkLHFhbc0FP6i/qUSM24/u32XRubB1UvjYK3HLTPWkEzttutw0B7A== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N 12.3-RELEASE still uses Clang/libc++ 10 from 1 year ago. Do you plan to update in future as /stable/12 is supported until 2024-06-30? libc++ lags behind libstdc++ on C++20 features and sticking to an old version puts the entire branch on a deathbed. Given drm-kmod on /stable/12 is stuck with Linux 4.16 era (discontinued after 2018-06-26) /stable/12 is already mostly dead from desktop POV. See also https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=215193 https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=260139