From owner-freebsd-security Wed Sep 29 3: 7:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from mailgate.dtt.co.za (mail.dtt.co.za [196.34.84.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E87391510E for ; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 03:07:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ROpperma@dtt.co.za) Received: from ccMail by mailgate.dtt.co.za (IMA Internet Exchange 3.13) id 000F7337; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 11:58:06 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 11:56:56 +0200 Message-ID: <000F7337.C21325@dtt.co.za> From: ROpperma@dtt.co.za (Rudi Opperman) To: Mike Holling Cc: freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re[2]: Help me win the MS-Proxy/ipfw war Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="IMA.Boundary.6809958390" Sender: owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --IMA.Boundary.6809958390 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Hi A little bit off topic but... I understand the benefits of diskless operations - but are floppies/stiffies such a good idea? Isn't their mtf worse than hdd? Would booting off some other type of media (zip /cd / 120mbfloppy), configured readonly, be better? bye rudi > I wouldn't run a diskless firewall unless I had provisions for remote > logging. And in any case, disks are so cheap nowadays - the added > flexibility is well worth the added cost. I sell PicoBSD-based NAT systems for mostly home/SOHO DSL/cablemodem users. The benefit of no hard drive is there's no hard drive to fail, and even the floppy only has to work at boot time. Makes the units much quieter too. - Mike --IMA.Boundary.6809958390 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"; name="RFC822 message headers" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Content-Disposition: inline; filename="RFC822 message headers" Received: from internat.freebsd.org ([146.64.8.4]) by mailgate.dtt.co.za with SMTP (IMA Internet Exchange 3.13) id 000F65D8; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 02:57:53 +0200 Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.18]) by internat.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA13697; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 03:01:20 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 538) id EAD0C1582B; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 18:00:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id ADF291CD474; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 18:00:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-security) Received: by hub.freebsd.org (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 28 Sep 1999 18:00:29 -0700 Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from phluffy.fks.bt (mail.amc-inc.com [156.46.122.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0AD315838 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 18:00:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from myke@ees.com) Received: from localhost (myke@localhost) by phluffy.fks.bt (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA00721; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 12:45:13 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from myke@ees.com) X-Authentication-Warning: phluffy.fks.bt: myke owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 12:45:12 -0500 (CDT) From: Mike Holling X-Sender: myke@phluffy.fks.bt To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Cc: "f.johan.beisser" , "Scott I. Remick" , freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Help me win the MS-Proxy/ipfw war In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk --IMA.Boundary.6809958390-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message