From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 10 12:21:44 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ports@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0FD5106566C; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 12:21:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gahr@gahr.no-ip.org) Received: from cpanel05.rubas-s05.net (cpanel05.rubas-s05.net [195.182.222.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A1A38FC0C; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 12:21:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 175-3.192-178.cust.bluewin.ch ([178.192.3.175] helo=gahr.no-ip.org) by cpanel05.rubas-s05.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SHa4s-0001tM-UG; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 14:21:42 +0200 Received: by gahr.no-ip.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id BBA124505F; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 14:21:42 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 14:21:42 +0200 From: Pietro Cerutti To: Mark Linimon Message-ID: <20120410122141.GA73185@gahrfit.gahr.ch> References: <201204092351.q39Npi6F025202@repoman.freebsd.org> <20120410091537.GK98668@gahrfit.gahr.ch> <20120410114537.GL17460@culot.org> <20120410115630.GB2456@lonesome.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="W/nzBZO5zC0uMSeA" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20120410115630.GB2456@lonesome.com> X-PGP-Key: 0x9571F78E X-PGP-Fingerprint: 1203 92B5 3919 AF84 9B97 28D6 C0C2 6A98 9571 F78E User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cpanel05.rubas-s05.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - gahr.no-ip.org X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org, Frederic Culot , bapt@FreeBSD.org, cvs-ports@FreeBSD.org, ports-committers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: ports/games/8kingdoms Makefile ports/misc/airoflash Makefile ports/graphics/autopano-sift Makefile ports/x11/avant-window-navigator-xfce4 Makefile ports/lang/boo Makefile ports/x11/cl-clx-sbcl Makefile ports/palm/coldsync ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: gahr@FreeBSD.org List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 12:21:44 -0000 --W/nzBZO5zC0uMSeA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2012-Apr-10, 06:56, Mark Linimon wrote: > On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 01:45:38PM +0200, Frederic Culot wrote: > > To conciliate such a necessary action without hurting the feelings of t= hose > > maintainers who despite their work could not update the state of their = port in a > > timely manner, maybe it would be good to be more verbose in the log of = such > > commits. Inspired by linimon's emails, something like the following cou= ld be > > added: >=20 > I do get some responses from maintainers to those emails, and (except > in the cases where the email gets stuck in my mbox) I honor their requests > for an extension. OTOH in general I get personal replies and not replies > to the list, so people aren't seeing that interaction in public. >=20 > From my standpoint, by the time something has been broken for 6 months, > the maintainer will have already gotten multiple emails from portsmon. > So, I'm going to have to say I'm a little frustrated if I need to send > another round of mail even on top of that. That's exactly my point: maintainers are very likely to know the situation by the time these deprecation campaigns set off, and committing to their ports without prior approval is in contrast with our policy. I still do not see the necessity to deprecate maintained ports, even though a port might be maintained as broken for a long period of time. The maintainer might be waiting for something to happen either upstream or in our infrastructure, which could release the port from brokenness. --=20 Pietro Cerutti The FreeBSD Project gahr@FreeBSD.org PGP Public Key: http://gahr.ch/pgp --W/nzBZO5zC0uMSeA Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk+EJdUACgkQwMJqmJVx945iawCeKwOswiUrwD9T1W68V/8yXPpZ NuEAn22EjoshP779m2cjxcKX0VkHmvVA =KRWJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --W/nzBZO5zC0uMSeA--