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Date:      Tue, 14 Sep 2004 21:24:42 -0700
From:      Brooks Davis <brooks@one-eyed-alien.net>
To:        Conrad Sabatier <conrads@cox.net>
Cc:        freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: /dev, /proc support in a chrooted Linux emulation environment
Message-ID:  <20040915042442.GA27877@odin.ac.hmc.edu>
In-Reply-To: <20040915015513.GB11111@cox.net>
References:  <20040914133535.3aa9ee21@dolphin.local.net> <20040914185236.GA31186@odin.ac.hmc.edu> <20040915015513.GB11111@cox.net>

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On Tue, Sep 14, 2004 at 08:55:13PM -0500, Conrad Sabatier wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 14, 2004 at 11:52:36AM -0700, Brooks Davis wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 14, 2004 at 01:35:35PM -0500, Conrad J. Sabatier wrote:
> > > I've been exploring running Linux binaries under a chrooted Linux she=
ll
> > > (entering the environment via "chroot /compat/linux /bin/bash").  I've
> > > had remarkable success in installing and running quite a few rpms bey=
ond
> > > those found in the linux_base port, but have found that /dev support =
(as
> > > well as /proc) doesn't work as expected when running Linux apps within
> > > such an environment.
> > >=20
> > > Programs/scripts attempting to access, for example, /dev/null complain
> > > about no such file or device.  The same for /dev/ttyX, /dev/zero, etc.
> > >=20
> > > Similar problems occur attempting to use /proc/*.  I'm also experienc=
ing
> > > some networking problems, mainly with DNS resolution, but for now, my
> > > main concern is /dev and /proc.
> > >
> > > I realize that the method I'm using for running Linux apps is not what
> > > was intended with FreeBSD's Linux emulation mode, but it's interesting
> > > enough that I want to continue delving into it.  My goal is to have as
> > > near-complete a working Linux environment as possible, one that would
> > > support running practically any Linux app within this chrooted
> > > environment and would, for all intents and purposes, appear as a "rea=
l"
> > > Linux to any programs running within it.
> > >=20
> > > Are there any suggestions as to how I might remedy some of these
> > > problems?  Or is this simply beyond the scope/capabilities of the Lin=
ux
> > > emulator at this time?
> >=20
> > You can provide a fairly complete linux /proc with linprocfs.
>=20
> Yes, I am using linprocfs.  But even so, certain parts are either missing=
=20
> or not working properly.

If you know what you need, it may be possiable to implement.  Given that
StarOffice and Java run I wouldn't think there could be that much left
that a sane process could need.

> > For the moment, you can also make
> > nodes like /dev/null and /dev/zero with mknod, but I believe that
> > functionality will be going away.
>=20
> I've tried doing that, but the devices still don't function properly.  I'=
ve=20
> installed Linux's MAKEDEV package as well (into the chrooted environment)=
,=20
> and even with all the devices being created by the package's install scri=
pt,=20
> they still don't work.

If you use Linux's MAKEDEV to make them your 100% certain to fail.  They
need to be FreeBSD devices, not Linux ones.

-- Brooks

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