From owner-freebsd-arm@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 15 02:42:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arm@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A93481065672 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 02:42:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from mail-ob0-f182.google.com (mail-ob0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 640948FC12 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 02:42:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by obbun3 with SMTP id un3so1926991obb.13 for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 19:42:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=sender:subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer :x-gm-message-state; bh=MyUCHAOnisXJtwNYw5pR5QDG1on7B3xERYUAtjYhuBA=; b=UsYseX60MGf9invWNQdRdMGh8mGTEWhg1d69lOPY8rEV1wgsSGJdP7Ffstr0zZdm1E sZGKcMjyTvOhKBhK1lwO7D8sKB0G7VmAs9Kw3NlGMT7n8INe+0I5yHSSZCUOK/YY3Xkk R5XnRqgzwp7q6YzTnvIfC3mwJVDu2td4Aqb8pfflhUtr2O3gtgN0S2hVJcSfY491INUz ASbctQx/J+NAySdHaxXaCAgc53dWq7/E68Sigyoh07Bb62IacOY+Yqio5oBLK61EkAxJ 4jx2qqbvEHVdVQWsjsjD51KLyj8XbePa9CPlCuG+m0QHyDxCVFwiX4tsgFDEADkk2WNY 0hTQ== Received: by 10.60.29.72 with SMTP id i8mr191414oeh.26.1344998578450; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 19:42:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.0.63] (50-78-194-198-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net. [50.78.194.198]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ac8sm229223obc.11.2012.08.14.19.42.57 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 14 Aug 2012 19:42:57 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Warner Losh Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Warner Losh In-Reply-To: <502AEC99.70708@jetcafe.org> Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 20:42:51 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <55EAC835-9838-4802-8B2C-73B32FC6513F@bsdimp.com> References: <5008728C.5040100@jetcafe.org> <1343846511.1128.34.camel@revolution.hippie.lan> <501B0E04.5040901@jetcafe.org> <1343951251.1128.53.camel@revolution.hippie.lan> <502AEC99.70708@jetcafe.org> To: Dave Hayes X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmsrjb4aSAnX/AOfBH55R66i95tRz/ABpvcN9foHVyW/LaoqkKBNVGD/x5KvsfijcX+OJIp Cc: freebsd-arm@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Building ARM ports (was Re: Globalscale Dreamplug and 8.3 RELEASE) X-BeenThere: freebsd-arm@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the StrongARM Processor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 02:42:59 -0000 On Aug 14, 2012, at 6:26 PM, Dave Hayes wrote: > On 08/02/12 16:47, Ian Lepore wrote: >> I haven't yet tried to build ports using stock freebsd. At work we = have >> an arcane and complex and fragile system for cross-building ports, = which >> I only partially understand. >=20 > That's the entire problem with cross-building. Ports are very complex = systems and I think it's cleaner to just build them in an ARM emulator. > There are far too many dependencies to keep track of otherwise, at = least > for me. Yet the Linux folks are able to do it. If we want to be competitive, = we'll need to have a viable solution. > When I find time to struggle with QEMU again, I'll try to post a = summary here...presuming I can get this to work. This may or may not ultimately work. I hope that the complexity of this = is actually less than getting it right in the cross building world. Warner