From owner-svn-src-all@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 5 14:13:37 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 31A861C2; Thu, 5 Mar 2015 14:13:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from zxy.spb.ru (zxy.spb.ru [195.70.199.98]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D4E43D52; Thu, 5 Mar 2015 14:13:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slw by zxy.spb.ru with local (Exim 4.84 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1YTWWs-0000Op-Ui; Thu, 05 Mar 2015 17:13:34 +0300 Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2015 17:13:34 +0300 From: Slawa Olhovchenkov To: David Chisnall Subject: Re: svn commit: r279603 - in head: bin/rcp usr.bin/rlogin usr.bin/rsh Message-ID: <20150305141334.GX48476@zxy.spb.ru> References: <201503042201.t24M1jDG009278@svn.freebsd.org> <20150305114828.GK17947@FreeBSD.org> <20150305122103.GA90978@zxy.spb.ru> <20150305122359.GM17947@FreeBSD.org> <20150305123016.GO48476@zxy.spb.ru> <20150305123053.GN17947@FreeBSD.org> <20150305123349.GP48476@zxy.spb.ru> <20150305123548.GO17947@FreeBSD.org> <48981079-C9B7-411D-87A3-5A8F04924314@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: slw@zxy.spb.ru X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on zxy.spb.ru); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: Baptiste Daroussin , src-committers@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, Gleb Smirnoff , svn-src-head@freebsd.org, Dmitry Sivachenko X-BeenThere: svn-src-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire src tree \(except for " user" and " projects" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2015 14:13:37 -0000 On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 02:09:38PM +0000, David Chisnall wrote: > On 5 Mar 2015, at 14:04, Dmitry Sivachenko wrote: > > > It is so nice to have most useful stuff out of the box. > > The question is whether a tool for logging into remote machines > without encryption is 'the most useful stuff'. The tool is also > [ab]used for network testing, but we already provide a better tool > for that in the form of nc(1). Not better, no. telnet more verbose (and by default and more). And what about 'tools, not policy'?