From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Dec 15 4:14:50 2000 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 15 04:14:47 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.psknet.com (orion.psknet.com [63.171.251.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2DE5437B400 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 04:14:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 26449 invoked from network); 15 Dec 2000 12:14:45 -0000 Received: from abyss.dashit.net (HELO ABYSS) (209.100.22.250) by orion.psknet.com with SMTP; 15 Dec 2000 12:14:45 -0000 From: "Troy Settle" To: Subject: RE: Netcraft Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 07:14:45 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 In-Reply-To: X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by Pulaski Networks (http://www.psknet.com) using AMaViS (http://www.amavis.org) Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'd agree that netcraft is wrong. To demonstrate, here's a box that's been up just over the 497 days they mention: $ uname -a FreeBSD blarg 3.2-STABLE FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE #0: Fri Jun 4 11:17:38 EDT 1999 root@blarg:/usr/src/sys/compile/BLARG i386 $ uptime 7:09AM up 505 days, 2:41, 2 users, load averages: 0.08, 0.09, 0.04 I've got some 4.x boxes turned up a couple months ago. We'll see how well they hold out. Will post sometime in 2002 to see if they survive the 497 day rollover. -- Troy Settle Pulaski Networks 540.994.4254 It's always a long day, 86400 doesn't fit into a short. ** -----Original Message----- ** From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG ** [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Tim McMillen ** Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 4:00 AM ** To: Jeremy Vandenhouten ** Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG ** Subject: Re: Netcraft ** ** ** ** ** But what everyone is saying is that why would you want to advertise your ** uptime? Only bad can come of that. Like script kiddies or worse seeing ** it as a challenge and attacking until they can get in. No one else wants ** it to do that, so no one sees it as fixing FreeBSD to get it to tell a ** scan the uptime of a box. If it's not fixing something, why do it? ** As for the 497day rollover, I'm pretty sure they are wrong. In ** the record uptimes list there is one FreeBSD box (it is the number two ** overall, I think) with over 800 days uptime. And yes of course ** those can ** be fudged. I think the rollover used to be a problem with most ** unices but ** has been fixed. ** ** Tim ** ** On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Jeremy Vandenhouten wrote: ** ** > Let me say this first, I love FreeBSD. Its a great platform. ** Now, on to ** > other matters. ** > ** > > > the "default configuration problem?" ** > > ** > > What makes you think its a problem? ** > ** > If I thought it was a TRUE problem I wouldn't have put it in quotes. ** > ** > > Would you want to advertise ** > > your ** > > uptime so the script kiddies can confirm their kills? ** > ** > No offense to anyone, but for all the responses I've seen to ** this, none ** > actually answered the question. And worst of all, I sense that I'm ** > being given a slightly negative response here. Now maybe that's not ** > what you meant to do, but I honestly think that as a forum we could ** > come across a little more politely at times. ** > ** > Continuing.... ** > ** > Mike, thanks for the attempt at answering. I wish I knew how netcraft ** > pulled their results so that I could figure out how to get them to ** > accurately report it. That's why I asked if anyone else had an idea. I ** > did some searching on their site, but apparently they don't provide ** > that information. As for the information I provided, it was ** from quotes ** > from their FAQ page. ** > ** > ** > ** > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org ** > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message ** > ** ** ** ** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org ** with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message ** ** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message