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Date:      Tue, 7 Apr 1998 00:10:07 +0200
From:      "Christopher Martin at Home" <chrism@keyworld.net>
To:        "Glen Foster" <gfoster@gfoster.com>
Cc:        <Anthony.Barlow@europe.simoco.com>, <freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG>, <freebsd@plinet.com>
Subject:   Re: Bandwidth limiter for services?
Message-ID:  <199804062210.AAA31285@mail.keyworld.net>

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> 
> This is speculation on my part based on scanty evidence.  I wish
> Dennis would 'fess up and describe the logic behind his code in this
> forum.
> 
> Glen Foster <gfoster@gfoster.com>
> 

I wish he would too.
--
Christopher Martin
BDM -KeyWORLD http://www.keyworld.net

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> From: Glen Foster <gfoster@gfoster.com>
> To: chrism@keyworld.net
> Cc: Anthony.Barlow@europe.simoco.com; freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG;
freebsd@plinet.com
> Subject: Re: Bandwidth limiter for services?
> Date: Monday, April 06, 1998 11:52 PM
> 
> Is this really the case?  Dennis has been reluctant to describe the
> mechanism of his bandwidth manager but hints he has dropped on this
> and other FreeBSD lists indicate that they use a "strategically-timed
> ACK delay" mechanism to limit bandwidth rather than dropping packets.
> Basically, they ack as fast as the bandwidth limit allows given the
> size of the associated queue.
> 
> Obviously, this adds a little or a lot of latency, more when the
> bandwidth limit is approaching, but this is not unlike the way a
> partially-meshed network "looks" to a sender as it approachs
> saturation and it conserves aggregate bandwidth better than an
> aggressive discard strategy does (at least as long as the ACK delay is
> shorter than the retransmission timeout).
> 
> This is speculation on my part based on scanty evidence.  I wish
> Dennis would 'fess up and describe the logic behind his code in this
> forum.
> 
> Glen Foster <gfoster@gfoster.com>
> 
> >From: "Christopher Martin at Home" <chrism@keyworld.net>
> >Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 23:08:02 +0200
> >
> >I suggest that you check it out though. I think it works by dropping
> >packets. If it does the pipe might be filled by stuff that is already
> >downloaded. This might result in unaccepttable amount of retransmissions
> >from source.
> >
> >So you would not be really saving bandwidth...
> 
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