From owner-cvs-all Sun Oct 13 12: 1:12 2002 Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 888A037B401; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 12:01:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.92.13.169]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0604143E77; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 12:01:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.6/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g9DJ135b058311; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 12:01:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.6/8.12.5/Submit) id g9DJ0tB8058310; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 12:00:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 12:00:55 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Robert Watson Cc: "M. Warner Losh" , mark@grondar.za, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/etc group Message-ID: <20021013190055.GA57842@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.org Mail-Followup-To: David O'Brien , Robert Watson , "M. Warner Losh" , mark@grondar.za, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org References: <20021013.121741.61891248.imp@bsdimp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Oct 13, 2002 at 02:31:24PM -0400, Robert Watson wrote: > I believe you accomplish it in the New World Order by dropping pam_wheel > from the /etc/pam.d/su requirements. So I'm guessing that the current > /etc/group arrangement with root appearing in both wheel and operator is > the right one for the time being. This is too engrained in BSD systems and its admins to change. That it has changed in 5-CURRENT means some committer decided they didn't care that last time this came up the majority strongly wanted traditional behavior want IT LEFT ALONE and instead decided their own desires > that of a large group of others. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message