From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 28 18:28:20 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 151A216A41F for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2005 18:28:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stephen@math.missouri.edu) Received: from sccmmhc91.asp.att.net (sccmmhc91.asp.att.net [204.127.203.211]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B6A443D53 for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2005 18:28:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stephen@math.missouri.edu) Received: from [10.0.0.4] (12-216-248-146.client.mchsi.com[12.216.248.146]) by sccmmhc91.asp.att.net (sccmmhc91) with ESMTP id <20051228182818m91003fcqce>; Wed, 28 Dec 2005 18:28:18 +0000 Message-ID: <43B2D941.3080307@math.missouri.edu> Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 12:28:17 -0600 From: Stephen Montgomery-Smith User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20051222 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <1135661999.43b0d3af7568e@www.c-inter.com.ar> <43B11DCF.40504@FreeBSD.org> <43B17913.1020106@math.missouri.edu> <20051228125510.4f91926c@it.buh.tecnik93.com> In-Reply-To: <20051228125510.4f91926c@it.buh.tecnik93.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: compat 5x libraries missnig after restart X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 18:28:20 -0000 Ion-Mihai Tetcu wrote: > On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 11:25:39 -0600 > Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote: > > >>Doug Barton wrote: >> >>>Add the following to /etc/rc.conf.local: >>> >>>compat5x_enable=yes >>> >>>And it would probably help if you watched the messages printed to >>>the console as the system boots. >> >>And you should also have read the message that came when you >>installed the port - you know, the one that immediately scrolled off >>the top of the screen. And you should also have checked >>ports/UPDATING - oops, scratch that last piece of advice. >> >>Seriously, I consider my self lucky, not superior, that I caught this >>change and didn't face the same problems as the OP. > > > You mean you've read those mails with [HEADS-UP] pre-pended to > subj. line ? The only "HEADS-UP" message I saw was "Proposed patch to update misc/compat5x to rc.d-style boot script". This message had neither a "HEADS-UP" prepended to it, nor did the content have any explicit meantion of compat-xx_enable="YES". >>I hope you guys fix this "feature" before RELEASE-6.1, otherwise the >>mailing lists are going to be full of this issue. > > There's nothing to fix and yes, it's a feature (which will be probably > referenced in the release notes). Having it referenced in the release notes is going to help. But why not put compat_xx_enable="YES" in /etc/defaults/rc.conf? Also, how about explaining this in pkg_descr as well? I do agree with many posters that it is somewhat counterintuitive to need to put something in /etc/rc.conf in order to get these compatxx ports to work. (And personally don't see a reason for it - why would anyone install these ports if they didn't intend for them to be enabled.) I can see why those very much immersed in FreeBSD think this is a good idea (perhaps for consistencies sake). But I also think that the way it is now, it is going to trip up a lot of the more naive FreeBSD users. At the very least it needs to be documented in as many places as possible. Stephen