From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 8 18:57:20 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C604616A4CF for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2004 18:57:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net (sccrmhc12.comcast.net [204.127.202.56]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6018D43D53 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2004 18:57:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mwade@bluehighway.net) Received: from net-ninja.dyndns.org ([68.59.250.193]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with ESMTP id <2004030902571901200irdhse>; Tue, 9 Mar 2004 02:57:19 +0000 Received: from net-ninja.dyndns.org (net-ninja.dyndns.org [192.168.1.10]) by net-ninja.dyndns.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 597E71A4; Mon, 8 Mar 2004 21:57:19 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 21:57:19 -0500 (EST) From: Mike Wade X-X-Sender: mwade@net-ninja.dyndns.org To: Mark Allman In-Reply-To: <20040309015458.F38DA10F269@lawyers.icir.org> Message-ID: <20040308215444.W53592@net-ninja.dyndns.org> References: <20040309015458.F38DA10F269@lawyers.icir.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Who wants SACK? (Re: was My planned work on networking stack) X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2004 02:57:21 -0000 On Mon, 8 Mar 2004, Mark Allman wrote: > > > I hope it is clear to everyone that an investment in the 50K$ > > > range would provide a professional-grade implementation of SACK > > > for FreeBSD, and this money is in the noise for any organization > > > that uses trans-oceanic gigabit links. > > > > What Luigi says is absolutely correct. It doesn't take a lot to get > > this done. I've talked to a number of companies about implementing > > SACK for them and while there was interest, no one wanted to fund it > > all themselves, potentially for the benefit of their competitors. I > > know of two that went and did it themselves for FreeBSD --- one of > > which did it wrong and saw zero benefit from SACK and another that did > > it right, but are keeping it proprietary as an edge. Given that Linux > > and Windows already have it, these and the multiple past efforts > > collectively seem like an unnecessary duplication of work. Perhaps if > > we could pool enough interest, we can raise enough to put this issue > > to rest once and for all. > > On the freebsd web page, there is a note about monetary contributions. > I wonder if it would be worth it to make this a bit more verbose and > list specific things that are in need of funding. So, companies can tag > a small donation for "SACK development" and when there is enough in the > pool it can just get done. Would that spurn folks on a bit? Or, would > it be useful to setup some sort of committment system whereby a company > can say "we'll throw 5K in if you get committments for the 50K you need > to make X happen". It might be worth the modest investment to setup > something like that and keep it maintained. That way it's a bit more > official than some random person running around and trying to put > together the required coin. > > Just a thought .... Personally I think this would be very beneficial. On many occasions I've been willing to donate resources (including cash) for various efforts but I don't have the time or resources to manage such a system... --- Mike Wade (mwade@bluehighway.net) Blue Highway Labs, LLC.