From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Oct 13 04:37:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id EAA15893 for hackers-outgoing; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 04:37:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers) Received: from monoid.cs.tcd.ie (monoid.cs.tcd.ie [134.226.38.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id EAA15873 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 04:37:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from careilly@monoid.cs.tcd.ie) Received: from monoid.cs.tcd.ie (localhost.my.domain [127.0.0.1]) by monoid.cs.tcd.ie (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA09217; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 12:36:42 +0100 (IST) Message-Id: <199710131136.MAA09217@monoid.cs.tcd.ie> To: Terry Lambert cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: C2 Trusted FreeBSD? X-Address: Department of Computer Science, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland. X-Phone: +353-(0)1-6081321 In-reply-to: Message from Terry Lambert dated today at 09:31. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <9211.876742600.1@monoid.cs.tcd.ie> Content-Description: text Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 12:36:41 +0100 From: Colman Reilly Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk FreeBSD could easily be made C2 compliant. B1 is a bith, in that it pretty much requires the network authentication go away. If I can't trust a remote machine, I can't trust it to say "yes, this person is who I say he or she is...". One of the reasons I prefere the ITSEC model is that it allows you write down your own security claims depending on what you want to be able to say. Far more flexible than Orange Book. In any case, there's nothing in B1 to prevent you trusting an external machine, so long as it come in over a secure enough channel. Consider the external machine as part of the system. (Is there? Not on my reading of the standard anyway.) Security comes down to no external connections and a marine guard at the door of the Tempest vault, in most cases. 8-). With a small nuclear device attached to your hardware in case the guards are overcome. Colman