From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 13 12:56:37 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from orthanc.ab.ca (orthanc.ab.ca [216.123.203.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0FAB37B406 for ; Mon, 13 May 2002 12:56:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from orthanc.ab.ca (localhost.orthanc.ab.ca [127.0.0.1]) by orthanc.ab.ca (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g4DJu8tI089102; Mon, 13 May 2002 13:56:08 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from lyndon@orthanc.ab.ca) Message-Id: <200205131956.g4DJu8tI089102@orthanc.ab.ca> From: Lyndon Nerenberg Organization: The Frobozz Magic Homing Pigeon Company To: Kris Kennaway Cc: "John T. Farmer" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: conf/11376 still suspended In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 10 May 2002 17:01:09 PDT." <20020510170109.A55363@xor.obsecurity.org> X-Mailer: mh-e 5.0.92; MH 6.8.4; Emacs 21.2 Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 13:56:08 -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "Kris" == Kris Kennaway writes: Kris> A lot of the old stale patches in the PR database are old and Kris> stale because they are of poor technical quality or mysterious Kris> merit, and therefore they are unsuitable for committing in Kris> their present form. This implies that a committer has reviewed the PR and decided it's not ready for prime time. If that is the case, why are these PRs not set to the closed or feedback states? Having everything in the open state makes it appear that the PRs are being ignored. I suspect that a large part of what's happening here is that committers review a PR, decide they aren't the expert on the area, and move along looking for something closer to their specialized area. Since everyone leaves PRs for someone else, the PRs never get closed by anyone. This would account for the periodic "close a PR today" sweeps through gnats. The committers need to be a bit more pro-active about actively managing PR states. And about not being too shy to commit obvious simple fixes to files they don't "own." --lyndon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message