From owner-freebsd-security Mon May 6 16:31:46 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from walter.dfmm.org (walter.dfmm.org [209.151.233.240]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95BB337B401 for ; Mon, 6 May 2002 16:31:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 10542 invoked by uid 1000); 6 May 2002 23:31:42 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 6 May 2002 23:31:42 -0000 Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 16:31:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Jason Stone X-X-Sender: To: Subject: Re: Telnet Exploit In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020506162611.R6630-100000@walter> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 > > Why? Do you think ssh is more secure? It may not be. Just think > > about the complexity of ssh. > > Are you for real? Have you ever sniffed a connection between two > machines using ssldump? When looking at a telnet or ftp connection, > it shows everything, clear as day. "Blah blah you'd have to be crazy to use telnet, it's plaintext! Use ssh!" "Except blah blah ipsec, telnet-over-ssl, etc, openssh has a history of bad bugs, push crypto down out of the application layer and keep your high-layer apps simple!" This thread is not new, and not especially relevent here. -Jason ----------------------------------------------------------------------- I worry about my child and the Internet all the time, even though she's too young to have logged on yet. Here's what I worry about. I worry that 10 or 15 years from now, she will come to me and say "Daddy, where were you when they took freedom of the press away from the Internet?" -- Mike Godwin -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: See https://private.idealab.com/public/jason/jason.gpg iD8DBQE81xJeswXMWWtptckRAtVaAJ9PIBl+DhXVigcMJvrlwwxpkY8iaQCfaVns mKOJKttWcilCZMbmrs1xLDA= =olIv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message