From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 13 11:15:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04675106566B for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 11:15:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@catwhisker.org) Received: from albert.catwhisker.org (m209-73.dsl.rawbw.com [198.144.209.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0D248FC08 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 11:15:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from albert.catwhisker.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by albert.catwhisker.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5DBFiQJ007640; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 04:15:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from david@albert.catwhisker.org) Received: (from david@localhost) by albert.catwhisker.org (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q5DBFhJJ007639; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 04:15:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from david) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 04:15:43 -0700 From: David Wolfskill To: Wojciech Puchar Message-ID: <20120613111543.GD1584@albert.catwhisker.org> Mail-Followup-To: David Wolfskill , Wojciech Puchar , freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org References: <4FD66F7E.2060404@brandonfa.lk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="5gxpn/Q6ypwruk0T" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Boot Times X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 11:15:45 -0000 --5gxpn/Q6ypwruk0T Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 09:10:04AM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > .... > mostly kernel time.=20 > >Note: This isn't really an issue, moreso a curiosity. >=20 > true. system that never crash are not often booted > ... I'd rather not get into a long discussion about this, but the above reflects a perception that I do not share, for the simple reason that I track FreeBSD stable/8, stable/9, and head daily on my laptop. And since each of these is an "in-place" source upgrade, I reboot to get into each of those environments. And since I actually track stable/9 twice (one slice has stable/9 built with gcc; the other with clang) -- well, my mornings tend to be busy. (Just installing the stable/8 freshly-built kernel as I type.) In addition, I normally power the laptop off when I put it in my backpack & cycle to or from the train station. (Well, if I'm running stable/9 or head at the time, I can suspend it & resume once I've arrived.) Granted, neither of the above may be especially common, but "diversity [in this case, of experience] is a wonderful thing." Let us not assume that others' experiences and perceptions are limited to our own -- please? :-) Peace, david --=20 David H. Wolfskill david@catwhisker.org Depriving a girl or boy of an opportunity for education is evil. See http://www.catwhisker.org/~david/publickey.gpg for my public key. --5gxpn/Q6ypwruk0T Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk/Ydl8ACgkQmprOCmdXAD2lzwCghtktgOcIxhSi6sv06YoQ2/ua 2Q0AnAm/gShVDTlcmCZfTr94Pp/8b3OL =IqCt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --5gxpn/Q6ypwruk0T--