From owner-svn-ports-all@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 18 17:31:34 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-ports-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 65BF444C; Thu, 18 Sep 2014 17:31:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from apnoea.adamw.org (apnoea.adamw.org [204.109.59.150]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3B52EA5E; Thu, 18 Sep 2014 17:31:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.192.25] (dhcp-108-170-169-12.cable.user.start.ca [108.170.169.12]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by apnoea.adamw.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0A8E9114B9B; Thu, 18 Sep 2014 13:31:30 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Subject: Re: svn commit: r367783 - head From: Adam Weinberger In-Reply-To: <541AF723.1000507@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 13:31:29 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <2A60E3BE-1EE5-47BC-A4CB-6E39C57AB081@adamw.org> References: <201409092112.s89LCtUa094817@svn.freebsd.org> <540F6E85.2050105@marino.st> <540F70A7.6030904@FreeBSD.org> <540F74AB.3020605@marino.st> <541AF723.1000507@FreeBSD.org> To: Matthias Andree X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Cc: svn-ports-head@freebsd.org, Antoine Brodin , svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, marino@freebsd.org, ports-committers@freebsd.org, Bryan Drewery X-BeenThere: svn-ports-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the ports tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 17:31:34 -0000 On 18 Sep, 2014, at 11:15, Matthias Andree wrote: > Am 09.09.2014 um 23:44 schrieb John Marino: >> On 9/9/2014 23:27, Bryan Drewery wrote: >>> On 9/9/2014 4:17 PM, John Marino wrote: >>> I understand your reaction, but it's just the longstanding = convention. I >>> find it a bit rude too, but it speaks to the quality we expect of = each >>> other. Had this all not been fixed quickly we would not have = packages >>> this week. >>=20 >> The pointy hat was on the MOVED entry although I guess I deserve one = for >> removing the port in the first place. >>=20 >> The convention is not cool. I say it's time to retire this = tradition. >> If one really wants to make a point, send a private email. Have some >> class, this is just rubbing a mistake in somebody's face. This does = not >> make somebody's work better since they'll know about the error when = they >> see the commit. >=20 > I'd cast a ballot with the same mark as John's here. >=20 > Sometimes I'm lazy and mingle some things in one message with a = broader > distribution list, but guilt assignments don't get us anywhere. >=20 > What we COULD do is add a >=20 > Regression: [, [...]] >=20 > field and let the system look up whose commit caused the regressions = and > add them to the Cc: or Bcc: (to be discussed). That way we clearly = get > people on the hook without pointing fingers in public. Folks, please remember to be nice. Commit messages are written in ink, = so don=92t use =93Pointy hat:=94 unless it=92s in a good-natured manner, = and you=92re positive the subject will find it funny. Thinly veiling the blame game by calling people out by $Revision$ is not = progress. We don=92t need to =93get people on the hook,=94 we need to = ssh freefall.freebsd.org "cat /etc/motd|tail -2" # Adam --=20 Adam Weinberger adamw@adamw.org http://www.adamw.org