From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Jul 17 15:14:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA05781 for freebsd-chat-outgoing; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 15:14:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from titus.stade.co.uk (stade.demon.co.uk [158.152.29.164]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA05775 for ; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 15:14:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from aw1@stade.co.uk) Received: (from aw1@localhost) by titus.stade.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA06061; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 22:59:20 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from aw1) Message-ID: <19980717225920.A1388@stade.co.uk> Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 22:59:20 +0100 From: Adrian Wontroba To: chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: And it's back Reply-To: aw1@stade.co.uk Mail-Followup-To: chat@FreeBSD.ORG References: <199807172109.OAA25446@kithrup.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <199807172109.OAA25446@kithrup.com>; from Sean Eric Fagan on Fri, Jul 17, 1998 at 02:09:33PM -0700 Organization: Stade Computers Ltd, UK X-Phone: +(44) 121 681 6677 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Jul 17, 1998 at 02:09:33PM -0700, Sean Eric Fagan wrote: > Is this a majordomo problem, or a freebsd-load-related problem? Any one have > any ideas? In my opinion, both. I used to look after a system using Majordomo on a relatively small FreeBSD system (P120, 16MB). Majordomo can somewhat process happy - and if it runs in to the process limit while attempting to claim a lock file evil things happen to the alias list. I ruined several list by mailing 32 separate subscription approvals to Majordomo from my dialup machine. When I connected they they arrived in quick succession on the server, and the machine and majordomo went nuts, with sendmail and perl processes everywhere. When the dust settled I discovered that the alias file was empty. After restoring from a backup and perusing log files for later subscriptions, I circumvented the problem by setting sendmail to queued delivery only, with a queue run every 5 minutes. Not ideal, but the machine carries a light mail load. It is arguable that I should have tuned it better. A majordomo list I subscribe to recently lost all its subscribers, I assume due to a similar event. -- Adrian Wontroba, Stade Computers Limited. phone: (+44) 121 681 6677 Mail info@accu.org for information about the Association of C and C++ Users or see To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message