From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 30 20:41:31 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 600A816A4CE; Sun, 30 Jan 2005 20:41:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from zoot.lafn.org (zoot.lafn.ORG [206.117.18.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1261843D41; Sun, 30 Jan 2005 20:41:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Received: from [10.0.1.90] ([4.28.157.47]) (authenticated bits=0) by zoot.lafn.org (8.12.3p3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id j0UKfR3J055081 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 30 Jan 2005 12:41:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) In-Reply-To: <20050130201748.GA22358@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20050129202425.GA56998@heechee.tobez.org> <20050129220905.46ab86ae.lehmann@ans-netz.de> <41FBFDD9.7070605@mac.com> <20050130162753.D9021@a2.scoop.co.nz> <41FC67D8.2020609@mac.com> <20050130050110.GC1209@k7.mavetju> <41FCB779.7030902@mac.com> <20050130105424.GA31598@xor.obsecurity.org> <20050130201748.GA22358@xor.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Doug Hardie Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 12:41:25 -0800 To: Kris Kennaway X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.80/680/Sun Jan 23 15:16:15 2005 clamav-milter version 0.80j on zoot.lafn.org X-Virus-Status: Clean cc: Edwin Groothuis cc: Matthias Andree cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org cc: perl@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [HEADS UP] perl symlinks in /usr/bin will be gone X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 20:41:31 -0000 On Jan 30, 2005, at 12:17, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Sun, Jan 30, 2005 at 02:47:08PM +0100, Matthias Andree wrote: >> Kris Kennaway writes: >> >>> In other words, it's an impossible dream to hope that all scripts >>> will >>> conform to this or any of the other possible choices (remember the >>> perl motto). Even making everything perl in the ports collection use >>> a uniform style is probably an infeasible task (recall 840 ports use >>> /usr/bin/perl, and that's not counting the others that use another >>> hardcoded variant of /usr/local/bin/perl). >> >> Well, broken ports are marked broken and removed after some months. >> How would broken Perl ports justify special treatment? > > As I mention above, it's a rule that would be impossible to enforce on > third party scripts, so it would be wasted effort to try. Many years ago in a far off version, perl was a port and all my loyal subjects worked in peace and harmony. However, someone changed perl to be part of the base system. My subjects rebelled and refused to work saying the the perl of great price could no longer be found. After many hours of chasing this perl and correcting its location my subjects returned to work, and peace and harmony reigned again. Now I see perl going back towards being a port. This realm is not looking forward to another strike by its subjects. The grocery store strike here was more than enough. Don't need any more of them.