From owner-svn-src-all@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 7 17:04:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FB00562; Sat, 7 Sep 2013 17:04:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from slw@zxy.spb.ru) Received: from zxy.spb.ru (zxy.spb.ru [195.70.199.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5859A2A77; Sat, 7 Sep 2013 17:04:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slw by zxy.spb.ru with local (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1VILyO-0004Mw-RQ; Sat, 07 Sep 2013 21:07:00 +0400 Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2013 21:07:00 +0400 From: Slawa Olhovchenkov To: Bryan Venteicher Subject: Re: svn commit: r255323 - in head/sys: amd64/conf i386/conf Message-ID: <20130907170700.GB3796@zxy.spb.ru> References: <201309062024.r86KOMqm059838@svn.freebsd.org> <20130907081743.GB95723@zxy.spb.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: slw@zxy.spb.ru X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on zxy.spb.ru); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: svn-src-head@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, src-committers@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: svn-src-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire src tree \(except for " user" and " projects" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Sep 2013 17:04:57 -0000 On Sat, Sep 07, 2013 at 11:52:42AM -0500, Bryan Venteicher wrote: > On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 3:17 AM, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote: > > > On Fri, Sep 06, 2013 at 03:46:11PM -0500, Bryan Venteicher wrote: > > > > > On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 3:24 PM, Bryan Venteicher > > wrote: > > > > > > > Author: bryanv > > > > Date: Fri Sep 6 20:24:21 2013 > > > > New Revision: 255323 > > > > URL: http://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/255323 > > > > > > > > Log: > > > > Add vmx device to the i386 and amd64 NOTES files > > > > > > > > > > > FWIW - I'm on the fence about adding vmx to GENERIC for 10.0. IIRC, > > > VMware's vmxnet3 driver returns BUS_PROBE_VENDOR so the two drivers > > should > > > coexist. This is assuming VMware updates the driver for 10 ... which I'm > > > guessing isn't likely and was a large reason I added this driver in the > > > first place. > > > > Why we don't switch (in 10.0) to minimal GENERIC and all driver loaded > > as modules (/boot/loader.conf)? This is reduce memory (by easy unloading > > unneed > > drivers/modules), space (by reducing GENERIC+symbols size about 100M), > > space on install media too (100M + compressed 100M), build time (not > > need to build some modules twice) and add ability to easy > > update/bugfix modules w/o reboot. > > > > After last updates to bootloader loading many modules enought fast. > > > I already switched (for me) to this setup and it's fine for me. > > > > The holy grail would be for the loader to automatically detect and load > what is needed/supported, but this has been talked and beaten to death in > the past. No-no, not automatically detect. Just load all bundle of modules, cureently staticly compiled in GENERIC as individual modules. Just /boot/loader.conf of 100 lines module_load="yes".