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To: "Troy Settle" <troy@psknet.com>, <questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
From: Cliff Sarginson <cliff@raggedclown.net>
Subject: RE: Netcraft 
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 12:24:24 GMT
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Just noticed this...
$ uname -a
WindowsNT BillyBoy 4.0 Generic 80286 Compaq PC
$ uptime
1:18pm  up 2000 day(s), 42 min(s),  759 user,  load average: 1.26, 1.20, 1.24

mmm, some mistake here surely ?


> 
> I'd agree that netcraft is wrong.  To demonstrate, here's a box that's been
> up just over the 497 days they mention:
> 
> $ uname -a
> FreeBSD blarg 3.2-STABLE FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE #0: Fri Jun  4 11:17:38 EDT 1999
> root@blarg:/usr/src/sys/compile/BLARG  i386
> $ uptime
>  7:09AM  up 505 days,  2:41, 2 users, load averages: 0.08, 0.09, 0.04
> 
> I've got some 4.x boxes turned up a couple months ago.  We'll see how well
> they hold out.  Will post sometime in 2002 to see if they survive the 497
> day rollover.
> 
> 
> --
>   Troy Settle
>   Pulaski Networks
>   540.994.4254
> 
> It's always a long day, 86400 doesn't fit into a short.
> 
> 
> ** -----Original Message-----
> ** From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> ** [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Tim McMillen
> ** Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 4:00 AM
> ** To: Jeremy Vandenhouten
> ** Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> ** Subject: Re: Netcraft
> **
> **
> **
> **
> ** But what everyone is saying is that why would you want to advertise your
> ** uptime?  Only bad can come of that.  Like script kiddies or worse seeing
> ** it as a challenge and attacking until they can get in.  No one else wants
> ** it to do that, so no one sees it as fixing FreeBSD to get it to tell a
> ** scan the uptime of a box.  If it's not fixing something, why do it?
> ** 	As for the 497day rollover, I'm pretty sure they are wrong.  In
> ** the record uptimes list there is one FreeBSD box (it is the number two
> ** overall, I think) with over 800 days uptime.  And yes of course
> ** those can
> ** be fudged.  I think the rollover used to be a problem with most
> ** unices but
> ** has been fixed.
> **
> ** 							Tim
> **
> ** On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Jeremy Vandenhouten wrote:
> **
> ** > Let me say this first, I love FreeBSD. Its a great platform.
> ** Now, on to
> ** > other matters.
> ** >
> ** > > > the "default configuration problem?"
> ** > >
> ** > > What makes you think its a problem?
> ** >
> ** > If I thought it was a TRUE problem I wouldn't have put it in quotes.
> ** >
> ** > > Would you want to advertise
> ** > > your
> ** > > uptime so the script kiddies can confirm their kills?
> ** >
> ** > No offense to anyone, but for all the responses I've seen to
> ** this, none
> ** > actually answered the question. And worst of all, I sense that I'm
> ** > being given a slightly negative response here. Now maybe that's not
> ** > what you meant to do, but I honestly think that as a forum we could
> ** > come across a little more politely at times.
> ** >
> ** > Continuing....
> ** >
> ** > Mike, thanks for the attempt at answering. I wish I knew how netcraft
> ** > pulled their results so that I could figure out how to get them to
> ** > accurately report it. That's why I asked if anyone else had an idea. I
> ** > did some searching on their site, but apparently they don't provide
> ** > that information. As for the information I provided, it was
> ** from quotes
> ** > from their FAQ page.
> ** >
> ** >
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