From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jan 22 18: 0: 7 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC57237B401 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2003 18:00:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from skywalker.rogness.net (skywalker.rogness.net [64.251.173.102]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2868143EB2 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2003 18:00:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nick@rogness.net) Received: from skywalker.rogness.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by skywalker.rogness.net (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h0N20KFH052450; Wed, 22 Jan 2003 19:00:20 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nick@rogness.net) Received: from localhost (nick@localhost) by skywalker.rogness.net (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) with ESMTP id h0N20Jct052447; Wed, 22 Jan 2003 19:00:20 -0700 (MST) X-Authentication-Warning: skywalker.rogness.net: nick owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 19:00:18 -0700 (MST) From: Nick Rogness To: Bill Vermillion Cc: Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine , Subject: Re: Getting started as an ISP In-Reply-To: <20030123012633.GA83391@wjv.com> Message-ID: <20030122185528.L52063-100000@skywalker.rogness.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 22 Jan 2003, Bill Vermillion wrote: [SNIP] > > > Web/FTP and Email service are relatively simple to provide to > > customers. I recommend outsourcing News to some provider as it > > is cumbersome and expensive to build/run/operate. > > That is quite an understatement. Going over some specs with an engineer > in a Level 3 facility a couple of weeks ago he said a full news feed > runs about 78Mbits/second. Even if was of by an order of magnitude that > would come to 60GB day and I've heard almost a year ago it's been well > over 100GB day, so his 600GB figure is not that far off. Yeh, full news feeds require megabandwidth and require far to much administrative work for the number of people that actually use it :-) GigaNews, SuperNews, etc charge on a number of connections to their news service. This amount is not that bad considering the amount of crud you have to go through to manage a news feed. Nick Rogness - How many people here have telekenetic powers? Raise my hand. -Emo Philips To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message