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From: Kevin Day <toasty@home.dragondata.com>
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Subject: Re: Softupdates panics
In-Reply-To: <19980927231152.21543@follo.net> from Eivind Eklund at "Sep 27, 98 11:11:52 pm"
To: eivind@yes.no (Eivind Eklund)
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 17:57:19 -0500 (CDT)
Cc: tlambert@primenet.com, street@iname.com, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG
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> On Sun, Sep 27, 1998 at 07:57:05PM +0000, Terry Lambert wrote:
> > > Here for your enjoyment are two softupdates panics.  These are the first
> > > I've seen after months of softupdates use.  They came shortly after I 
> > > added `noatime' to two of my heavily used softupdates slices in 
> > > /etc/fstab, but I have been in the habit of dynamically updating the 
> > > mounts with noatime before make worlds with no problems.  These happened
> > > in the middle of large port compiles.  I've taken the noatime out of 
> > > fstab and have survived a couple of passes through the same port build.
> > 
> > 
> > Do *NOT* use "noatime" in combination with soft updates!
> > 
> > The dependencies for "noatime" are not switchable, and by enabling
> > it, you are breaking the dependency graph into seperate pieces!
> > 
> > The bug here is that it didn't ignore your request for "noatime".
> 
> Return error.  noatime request a particular behaviour for the mount;
> ignoring that request on the assumption that people only do it for
> speed is IMO totally bogus.
> 
> Eivind.
> 

I've gotta agree here - softupdates looked good for my palmtop that uses
flash - noatime is essentially required for flash media. :)

But is that what terry was saying? :)

Kevin

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