From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 18 23:51:30 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73F2E16A401 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2007 23:51:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout2.cac.washington.edu (mxout2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5115613C483 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2007 23:51:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.32.141] (may be forged)) by mxout2.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.03) with ESMTP id l2INpTDs027456 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2007 16:51:30 -0700 X-Auth-Received: from [192.168.10.41] (c-67-187-172-183.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.187.172.183]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.03) with ESMTP id l2INpTbO013591 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2007 16:51:29 -0700 Message-ID: <45FDD080.1010804@u.washington.edu> Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 16:51:28 -0700 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (X11/20070316) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <1174227685.31608.8.camel@joe.realss.com> <45FD5A53.1010805@realss.com> In-Reply-To: <45FD5A53.1010805@realss.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-PMX-Version: 5.3.0.289146, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.0.283055, Antispam-Data: 2007.3.18.163933 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CP_URI_IN_BODY 0, __CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __HIGHBITS 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Subject: Re: recommend console email client? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 23:51:30 -0000 Zhang Weiwu wrote: > Jeffrey Goldberg 写道: >> On Mar 18, 2007, at 9:21 AM, Zhang Weiwu wrote: >> >>> alpine => said to support charset conversion but cannot find any link >>> for downloading it. >> >> The link for downloading alpine is deliberately not made public. That >> is because alpine is considered alpha and UW seems to want everyone >> who is testing it to be a member of the alpine alpha testers mailing >> list. You can join the list at >> >> http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/alpine-alpha >> >> and you'll get the location of the latest alpine source, with many >> reminders that it is alpha. >> >> Alpine has the same look and feel of pine. >> >> -j >> > Al, okay, I'll join that list and hope alpine is as many other > opensource software that is pretty mature on its 0.8 version. > > But, I'd think Washington University better take an approach like > "release early, release often". That might help. Off topic though. Two things, alpine is probably being released under a different semi-proprietary license that all UW software gets released under, including pine, so it's definitely not BSD licensed or (L)GPL licensed by any means. The UW also plays it safe like many institutions and groups that release software -- they only release things once they're ready for production because they want to work out all the bugs and don't want to negatively affect any groups -- within the UW or outside it. By the way it's not Washington University, it's University of Washington; Washington (State) University is one of our rivals -- the Cougars :). Not a biggie, just wanted to clarify a bit. -Garrett