From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Wed May 30 00:40:02 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 378B9FC7F4D; Wed, 30 May 2018 00:40:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-rwg@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net) Received: from pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net (br1.CN84in.dnsmgr.net [69.59.192.140]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B095C8693D; Wed, 30 May 2018 00:40:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-rwg@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net) Received: from pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id w4U0dvw9067744; Tue, 29 May 2018 17:39:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-rwg@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net) Received: (from freebsd-rwg@localhost) by pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id w4U0dvPx067743; Tue, 29 May 2018 17:39:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-rwg) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <201805300039.w4U0dvPx067743@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> Subject: Re: [RFC] Deprecation and removal of the drm2 driver In-Reply-To: <20180529230131.211ff1da@oxy> To: Mateusz Piotrowski <0mp@freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 29 May 2018 17:39:57 -0700 (PDT) CC: Niclas Zeising , freebsd-x11@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL121h (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 May 2018 00:40:02 -0000 [ Charset UTF-8 unsupported, converting... ] > On Tue, 29 May 2018 21:28:49 +0200 > Niclas Zeising wrote: > > >On 05/18/18 19:58, Niclas Zeising wrote: > >> [ Cross posted to freebsd-current@ and freebsd-x11@.? Please respect > >> reply-to and send all replies to freebsd-x11@.? Thanks! ] > >> > >> [...] > >> > >> What does the community think?? Is there anyone still using the drm2 > >> driver on 12-CURRENT?? If so, what is preventing you from switching to > >> the port? > >> > > > > > >Wow, this blew up quite a lot bigger than I anticipated. I'll try to > >summarize the discussion a bit below and then suggest a way forward. > > > > [...] > > > >To move forward, we'll do the following: Note that this is for current > >only. > >We take the drm and drm2 drivers and make a port for it, maintained by > >the graphics team (x11@). After a transition period, then the drivers > >are removed from base. At the same time, pkg-messages are added to > >relevant places to point people to the various available drm drivers. > > Let's also remember about our handbooks and those two wiki page: > * https://wiki.freebsd.org/Graphics > * https://wiki.freebsd.org/Graphics/FAQ This one has a bit rot on this claim: "The i915kms kernel-side driver is already built into the generic FreeBSD kernel. No need to install anything. ' That is slightly miss leading, it is not "built into the generic", it is avaliable as a module, at least on 11 and 12, not sure on 10 as I dont have 10 running any place anymore. -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@freebsd.org