From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 14 18:23:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FA8916A404 for ; Sat, 14 Apr 2007 18:23:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from host222.ipowerweb.com (host222.ipowerweb.com [66.235.210.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EE56813C4AD for ; Sat, 14 Apr 2007 18:23:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 67709 invoked from network); 14 Apr 2007 18:22:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO demeter.hydra) (24.9.123.251) by host222.ipowerweb.com with SMTP; 14 Apr 2007 18:22:45 -0000 Received: from demeter.hydra (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by demeter.hydra (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l3EINAB2000398; Sat, 14 Apr 2007 12:23:10 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (from ren@localhost) by demeter.hydra (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l3EIN9ne000397; Sat, 14 Apr 2007 12:23:09 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) X-Authentication-Warning: demeter.hydra: ren set sender to perrin@apotheon.com using -f Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2007 12:23:09 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav Message-ID: <20070414182309.GB302@demeter.hydra> References: <2a4057fc0704131021t60249c62k4107ee6cf9f1fb8f@mail.gmail.com> <86mz1ckqlc.fsf@dwp.des.no> <20070413183656.E73976@fledge.watson.org> <86tzvjz2dr.fsf@dwp.des.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <86tzvjz2dr.fsf@dwp.des.no> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Claude Menski , doug@fledge.watson.org, "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: I like Ubuntu X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2007 18:23:13 -0000 On Sat, Apr 14, 2007 at 12:17:20PM +0200, Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav wrote: > doug@safeport.com writes: > > First my experience with [Free]BSD as a server completely mirrors > > Dag-Erling's observation, it [mostly] just works. I started with BSDI > > switching to FreeBSD around 3.5. I think it is also true that > > depending on your hardware a FreeBSD workstation or laptop can be a > > bit of a challenge. > > My issues with FreeBSD as a desktop mostly come from the difficulty of > installing software and keeping it up-to-date: 'pkg_add -r' and > 'portupgrade -aP' simply can't hold a candle to 'apt-get install' and > 'apt-get dist-upgrade'. What do you find lacking in the FreeBSD approach? I'm a relatively recent transplant from Debian, and my experience is that FreeBSD provides better, more predictable, and more customizable results, without increasing the difficulty or reducing the convenience at all. Granted, I haven't really tried the package-based software management options for FreeBSD in any depth -- I'm mostly installing from source at this point -- but thus far I haven't any reason to expect package-based installation to be any less easily managed than source-based installs. -- CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [ http://ccd.apotheon.org ] Amazon.com interview candidate: "When C++ is your hammer, everything starts to look like your thumb."