From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 11 13:43:13 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 898F010656AA; Fri, 11 Feb 2011 13:43:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-hackers@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB4D58FC1B; Fri, 11 Feb 2011 13:43:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.186]) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CCF65C45; Fri, 11 Feb 2011 23:50:21 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4D553C4B.5000101@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 23:40:27 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20110204 Thunderbird/3.0.11 ThunderBrowse/3.3.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Vlad Galu References: <4D54E39D.1000505@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <4D54F0B0.7010503@freebsd.org> <4D550300.5090000@herveybayaustralia.com.au> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: linux PF_PACKET compatibility X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 13:43:13 -0000 On 02/11/11 19:54, Vlad Galu wrote: > > > On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 11:36 AM, Da Rock > > wrote: > > On 02/11/11 18:17, Julian Elischer wrote: > > On 2/10/11 11:22 PM, Da Rock wrote: > > "In recent versions of the Linux kernel (post-2.0 > releases) a new protocol family has been introduced, named > PF_PACKET. This family allows an application to send and > receive packets dealing directly with the network card > driver, thus avoiding the usual protocol stack-handling > (e.g., IP/TCP or IP/UDP processing). That is, any packet > sent through the socket will be directly passed to the > Ethernet interface, and any packet received through the > interface will be directly passed to the application." > > I've been chasing the answer to a FreeBSD version of this > (approx. anyway), but I needed to find out what exactly > PF_PACKET was first. Finally found this answer here: > http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/4659 > > I looked up man socket and I can see possibilities (in my > mind anyway), but I thought I'd be best to check if the > gurus here might have a better idea. My reason for this is > I'm attempting to build l2tpns (which supposedly builds on > 7.3?! with no trouble), and I'm chasing the errors which > appear to be linuxisms mostly. > > So in man socket simply looking at the list of protocol > families I'd say network driver level would be similar to > PF_LINK link layer interface? Is there another man page I > should be looking at as well? > > > We don't have an exact equivalent.. but we have ways of doing > the same thing. > one way that is suggested is to use pcap and bpf which I am > pretty certain has been enhanced to allow sending as > well as receiving. > you can also hook directly to the interface using netgraph(4) > there are other ways too but those are the two that came to > mind immediately. > > So I'm going to have to rewrite that interface entirely? Bugger! I > just can't fathom how this howto could even exist for l2tpns on > FreeBSD if it isn't even close to buildable... weird! > > http://kuapp.com/2010/07/14/how-to-setup-l2tpipsec-vpn-on-freebsd.html > > Thanks guys. I'll probably come back with more problems as I > slowly crack this one... :) > > > I suppose you could just use mpd :) I could, I guess. But where's the fun in that? :) Seriously, though, mpd didn't quite cut it (I thought) for me. I need a l2tp vpn server with the capability to handle multiple clients with only one interface. The server is behind a firewall, and I'm trying for a "walled garden" variety I guess. So far my research has brought me here, but I'm open to suggestions. One other that has my attention is l2tpd (in ports). I want radius auth, so IF I can use pppd in base and radius (which as I understand- so far anyway- it needs), and only uses a single interface, then maybe. I'm still hunting and playing- learning on the fly. From what I read mpd uses an ng interface for every single client. L2tpns doesn't, and from what I've read so far neither does l2tpd (I was actually looking at another fork of that xl2tpd). I could use some advice from someone with experience with this, but my feelers on -questions didn't get much response. I may try on -net if this fails... Aside from that I also wanted to get a bit more of a hands on feel for the FreeBSD core. I can't sit on the sidelines yelling at the players any more :) I'm not much for spectator sport either...