From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 10 23:53:00 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3110D809; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 23:53:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brett@lariat.net) Received: from lariat.net (lariat.net [66.62.230.51]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC49E8FC15; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 23:52:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from Toshi.lariat.net (IDENT:ppp1000.lariat.net@lariat.net [66.119.58.2] (may be forged)) by lariat.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA09737; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 16:52:48 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <201212102352.QAA09737@lariat.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 16:52:22 -0700 To: Adrian Chadd From: Brett Glass Subject: Re: Will we get a RELEASE-9.1 for Christmas? In-Reply-To: References: <201212090318.UAA11257@lariat.net> <50C4A341.9070903@FreeBSD.org> <201212092031.NAA17017@lariat.net> <201212092215.PAA17770@lariat.net> <201212101735.KAA02736@lariat.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: stable@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 23:53:00 -0000 At 04:29 PM 12/10/2012, Adrian Chadd wrote: >There's politics in every organisation. There are ego clashes in every >organisation. Sometimes you'll fit in, sometimes you won't. If you >feel there are issues, find people inside the community who you do get >along well with and talk with them about it. > >It sucks, yes. I'm one of those "shut up and code already" types and I >deal badly with politics. Me, too. That's why I have been contributing code quietly through others rather than putting myself out in the front lines. In any event -- back to the original topic -- there should indeed be better communications between the Release Engineering team and the community. The time it takes to post updates -- especially as it gets close to release time -- would be recovered many times over because folks like me wouldn't have any need to e-mail regarding status and projected schedules. ;-) --Brett Glass