From nobody Sun Mar 29 18:00:29 2026 X-Original-To: freebsd-pkgbase@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4fkMcR1jHMz6X44W for ; Sun, 29 Mar 2026 18:00:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from polyduekes@proton.me) Received: from mail-106103.protonmail.ch (mail-106103.protonmail.ch [79.135.106.103]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "protonmail.com", Issuer "R12" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4fkMcN414Sz3Lx9; Sun, 29 Mar 2026 18:00:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from polyduekes@proton.me) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=proton.me header.s=protonmail header.b="e6+/TTCT"; dmarc=pass (policy=quarantine) header.from=proton.me; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of polyduekes@proton.me designates 79.135.106.103 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=polyduekes@proton.me DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=proton.me; s=protonmail; t=1774807233; x=1775066433; bh=CdKqqPUkKP/SZW/GX9saEezvnL2GHjuWRjC2Z2wEnb0=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: Feedback-ID:From:To:Cc:Date:Subject:Reply-To:Feedback-ID: Message-ID:BIMI-Selector; b=e6+/TTCTKdvAj0SthD3tIl9Nub4laiufGFFNqULEM58t3WKjEN92oLAEDuLvGxW4t XGzDQlAkUMSLs6vOT2c4j0CUXTIv6Jswz58lIGEJyKa9Kst/v5lzOhQWz+F3iELFsY LG5pl2K+w887QX/du9D/mThUGaYybEBJAxI5WbuY1mryEBCLCC1vnCI6M6uhQ7KtNv ey9DZ/bllY2nQnY6IEULftjGiHRXv4agVm0Sqgl+YtRPpMCl1mUsO1Fe9RQjeHURHA QRh3I+Kz81ITPecyZW1MAkkA7dh65X9vYuGIxjDJtcHxTlfO4/UKfw41l/DGKXPWKo Z/gNFTi3m5zRA== Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2026 18:00:29 +0000 To: Lexi Winter From: polyduekes@proton.me Cc: freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: installing world from src on a pkgbase system Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Feedback-ID: 94987605:user:proton X-Pm-Message-ID: b9f0c22fd0fd95d510ebd7fb07b3a423966a6fa4 List-Id: Packaging the FreeBSD base system List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-pkgbase List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-pkgbase@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.38 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.88)[-0.882]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[proton.me,quarantine]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_EXCELLENT(-0.40)[79.135.106.103:from]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:79.135.106.0/24]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[proton.me:s=protonmail]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[79.135.106.103:from]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:62371, ipnet:79.135.106.0/24, country:CH]; FROM_NO_DN(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; MISSING_XM_UA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[proton.me:+] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4fkMcN414Sz3Lx9 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Sent with Proton Mail secure email. On Thursday, March 26th, 2026 at 3:26 AM, Lexi Winter wro= te: > polyduekes@proton.me wrote in : > > is needing to do both buildworld and buildkernel to create a pkg repo > > the intended behaviour or is that planned to change >=20 > right now i don't believe there are any plans to change that. i suppose what are your thoughts on the real-update-packages target,it looks it was c= reated for exactly my usecase(b44147bb12450bdf851a519d1cdc85402f89ed1f) although it seems it has been broken for a while(e4988ba172a84b35abab8ce065= f2210dab70f148) > it might change in the future. usually people want to build both the > world and the kernel, so this isn't an oft-requested feature. >=20 > could you elaborate on why you want to build world but not kernel? > this would help inform development efforts in that area. >=20 > > additionally may i ask why it's recommended to do 'make > > upodate-packages' over 'make packages' >=20 > 'update-packages' will copy unchanged packages from the previous build > to the current build, which means if only a small number of packages > have changed, the system won't try to update every package. >