From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Aug 29 13:32:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from smtp05.primenet.com (smtp05.primenet.com [206.165.6.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 726E137B43C for ; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 13:32:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp05.primenet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA19927; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 13:32:57 -0700 (MST) Received: from usr02.primenet.com(206.165.6.202) via SMTP by smtp05.primenet.com, id smtpdAAA8daOWM; Tue Aug 29 13:32:44 2000 Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr02.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA18978; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 13:32:30 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <200008292032.NAA18978@usr02.primenet.com> Subject: Re: Gimme FreeBSD anyday! To: jcm@freebsd-uk.eu.org (j mckitrick) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 20:32:20 +0000 (GMT) Cc: tlambert@primenet.com (Terry Lambert), res03db2@gte.net (The Clark Family), chat@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20000825020341.A59386@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> from "j mckitrick" at Aug 25, 2000 02:03:41 AM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > | > Not all UNIX is open source or GPL. I would expect to find that > | > fancier debugging tools are available, in commercial toolsets on UNIX. > | BattleMap cost us $50,000 per workstation back in the early 90's. > | > | I have also seen a commercial network management and configuration > | design tool. That tool cost $250,000 for a 1 year license for one > | machine. You paid for the graph theory and the patents on the code. > | > | So yes, such tools exist. > > 1. What software companies have the resources for such a tool? Any company that does life-support software can not be without such tools, from a legal liability standpoint. This includes gene sequencers, blood gas monitors, gamma knives, and many thing that you wouldn't immediately think of as "life support", such as avionics systems, transit control for Amtrack or other public transit, automotive computers, people who write the code that validates wing designs or airbag sensors, commercial process control in chemical factories that process chemicals into food additives. Oh yeah: and people who want their code to work, guaranteed to 6 sigmas. 8-). > 2. What kind of progs do they write? Oil and gas? Everything. > 3. Why doesn't M$ use such a tool to improve code quality? They of all > people have the funds. The tools won't run on Windows platforms; they require big iron. The smallest systems you'll find them on are UNIX engineering workstations with a lot of RAM and a lot of disk. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message