From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 16 16:55:25 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CF7A37B401 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 16:55:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bilver.wjv.com (user38.net339.fl.sprint-hsd.net [65.40.24.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB6EA43FDD for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 16:55:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bv@wjv.com) Received: from bilver.wjv.com (localhost.wjv.com [127.0.0.1]) by bilver.wjv.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h5GNtHs3048856 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 19:55:18 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bv@wjv.com) Received: (from bv@localhost) by bilver.wjv.com (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h5GNtHF8048855 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 19:55:17 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 19:55:17 -0400 From: Bill Vermillion To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030616235516.GD45717@wjv.com> References: <20030616190027.5B1BF37B405@hub.freebsd.org> <00d801c3343b$2f2bcba0$6501a8c0@bigblackhole> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <00d801c3343b$2f2bcba0$6501a8c0@bigblackhole> Organization: W.J.Vermillion / Orlando - Winter Park ReplyTo: bv@wjv.com User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-26.0 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES, USER_AGENT_MUTT version=2.53 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.53 (1.174.2.15-2003-03-30-exp) Subject: Re: Did you guys get a spam email with subject 'Make extra income X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: bv@wjv.com List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 23:55:25 -0000 On Mon, Jun 16, 2003 at 12:12 , Men gasped, women fainted, and small children were reduced to tears as Jesse Wilson confessed to all: > Spammers never go through the effort of personally harvesting e-mail > addresses. They simply have bots crawling the web picking up e-mail > addresses off of the different websites. Not neccesarily. One way is to suck in the email addresses of ALL users on a system running majordomo if the hole hasn't been pathched. > Also, spammers never send the e-mail with a real e-mail address in the > from line either. Which is why you watch the SMTP server IPS [ since most names are forged ] > My only effective way of blocking spam is to use unique e-mail > addresses like you were doing with the freebsd@ one and then > blocking those unique ones once they start getting spam. Use a decent spam filter. I have been using the same email address since 1996 and don't have the problems that many people attribute not changing your email address regularly. I don't change my real name or phone number, so why should I change my email address if I have it under control. You are also told not to post to NG's with a real name. I've been posting since 1985 - but in those days it was a .uucp name. I do mung the reply to but not severely. > Once an address starts getting > nailed it's on spam databases everywhere and so it's done for. Common names are real spam attractants. Avoid names like Bill, Bob, Joe, etc. I remember seeing lists when people were tyring to relay that started with all common names starting with "a" at the major public sites [yahoo, aol, etc], then the next batch would be 'b' names. That will help too. Bill > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list -- Bill Vermillion - bv @ wjv . com