From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jan 4 16:24:52 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DC5D37B401 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 16:24:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from sccrmhc03.attbi.com (sccrmhc03.attbi.com [204.127.202.63]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92AB343EE1 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 16:24:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([12.242.158.67]) by sccrmhc03.attbi.com (sccrmhc03) with ESMTP id <2003010500244800300lc3jte>; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 00:24:48 +0000 Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h050S7m4003867; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 16:28:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h050S2Vh003866; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 16:28:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) To: Terry Lambert Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [resolution] Re: sendmail (Re: 5.0-RC2 informal PR: 90 sec sendmail delay) References: <3E1352BC.4043921B@mindspring.com> <20030101145232.A391@zardoc.esmtp.org> <3E13D095.FC52B758@mindspring.com> <3E163C0A.C0CF8146@mindspring.com> <8p4r8pwgl6.r8p@localhost.localdomain> <3E16BA5E.1FD866D1@mindspring.com> <14vg14vg8l.g14@localhost.localdomain> <3E174E90.13BAD210@mindspring.com> From: swear@attbi.com (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: 04 Jan 2003 16:28:02 -0800 In-Reply-To: <3E174E90.13BAD210@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <8o4r8ophil.r8o@localhost.localdomain> Lines: 53 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Terry Lambert writes: > "Gary W. Swearingen" wrote: [...] > From my personal experience, DSL and cable modems are also transient > connections. 8-(. I've had real good service from both (in a hardware sense -- but at every "change of state" (initiated by me), their people would screw something up. After Qwest lied to me about DSL availability, costing me dearly in Apartment choice and cost, didn't bother to tell me about it until supposed hookup day, and then changed their mind after explaining why they couldn't do it, I went with AT&T for ISP AND phone service. They managed to hook the TV filter into my Internet line and tested it on the wrong side of the filter. Mananged to debug that myself because I didn't want to hear them say they didn't support non-MSFT OSes. > The RFC-correct name is > actually "link.local", not "localdomain", if you care, which you > probably don't. 8-). I could only find it in a draft, not a RFC: http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/99jul/I-D/draft-ietf-dnsind-local-names-07.txt Google ignores the ".", making the search hard. I searched again on part of the title and author, but struck out. I found RFC-2606 with these new-to-me TLDs: test, example, invalid, and localhost. I guess it makes sense that the "localhost" domain can be the FQDN of the local host -- no need for two domain levels there. Do you propose changing /etc/hosts? Say, from 127.0.0.1 localhost localhost.my.domain to 127.0.0.1 localhost localhost.link.local or 127.0.0.1 localhost and why not 127.0.0.1 localhost localhost.site.local > Yes, it's annoying that the relationship between a caching DNS > forwarder and the DHCP assigned DNS server is not automatic in > FreeBSD clients, like it is in Windows clients. I've added that to my write-a-PR file, low on the list. > That's even easier: only do the queue run in the "linkup" script: > no head bumping at all. 8-). Now why didn't I think of that good idea? (Don't say!) -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message